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    Posted: Dec/28/2020 at 9:31am
Anyone have a source on springs....both mine are missing on my '66 Rambler Rogue.








Edited by InRogue - Dec/28/2020 at 9:35am
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Looks like it is reproduced, check the usual vendors - APD, Galvins, Kennedy, Amark.  

I am not that familiar with these cars, so verify this is what you need, but this appears to be it at American Parts Depot:

Hope this helps - Mark
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How do they even show up missing. Are they something that just shoots out there randomly?
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The hinge pin, bushings, detent arm, and the detent arm bearing/pins etc. get enough slop in them until the spring gets enough clearance to slip out.  Check how much the hinge pins/bushings are worn by lifting up on the rear of the door.  You probably have worn pins/bushings in the door hinges.  I have rebuilt them before and it is not overly difficult unless one of the pins is broken off in the hinge.  The typical AMC vendors have a rebuilding service and I have seen some folks on this forum that rebuild them (AMX/Javelin anyway).  I think once you buy all the replacement parts, it is not that much more to have it done. - Good luck
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So I ordered up 2 springs. Whats the best way to reinstall these without poking an eye out?
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Hope I didn't steer you wrong here, but the springs will come out again if you don't rebuild the hinge.  Parts per side (going from memory so there may be more): Upper/Lower Bushings (4 Total), Upper/Lower Pins, Detent Plate, Detent-Stud, Detent-Roller (like I said, by the time you buy all the parts it is not that much to have them done - but I usually do everything I can whether it makes sense on not Wink.   
I have rebuilt similar hinges on a Camaro with them still on the car.  The only AMC I have rebuilt is 68 AMX hinges with them off the car.  Some parts may have to be drilled out so they may have to come off the car.  Best I recall, after all the parts were replaced I used a large pair of vice grips to compress the spring and a screwdriver to pry it into position.  Took a couple of tries as I recall.  As usual the second side went a little easier.  My experience has been that the Driver's side needs everything, but the Passenger's side may be ok or just need some of the parts but if the spring is missing, it will probably need everything also.  Hope this helps
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To install, you need to knock the pin (that holds the spring arm) partially out so that the arm drops down. Then insert the spring, which will be at an angle. Then drive the pin back in. If you don't do this they are just about impossible to install.
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Originally posted by InRogue InRogue wrote:

How do they even show up missing. Are they something that just shoots out there randomly?

Yes I tack welded mine on. I got them from ADP I think. I think I had to slightly shorter them with an angle grinder I don't recall.
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Our 70 AMX's driver door hinge spring broke into two pieces and fell out.

I found a good used one and cleaned it up to install.

Working on a good tip, I purchased a door hinge spring compressor. I thought maybe I could do it on the car that way,  but at least the way I saw it, I needed to take the door off to expose the hinge for me to do it.

It wasn't that hard to do but did require a second set of hands for the removal and reinstallation of the door.

Below are some pictures from the project. 
Unfortunately in reverse order Smile








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The GM spring compressor I bought was useless with the doors in place.  I've been able to do it without removing the doors or hinges by compressing the spring with a drill press and using zip ties to keep it compressed, then cutting the ties once the spring is in place.  Sometimes takes more than a few tries but I've done four doors this way now.

Edited by CamJam - Jan/15/2021 at 8:05pm
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