70 AMX wiper motor switch
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Topic: 70 AMX wiper motor switch
Posted By: azzj97
Subject: 70 AMX wiper motor switch
Date Posted: Mar/31/2015 at 2:45pm
| Are the switches the same for all AMX's? Where can I get one? Thanks |
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Posted By: AZAMX68
Date Posted: Mar/31/2015 at 2:57pm
| I don't know if they are the same. I just got one for my 68 AMX from Greg at American Motor Haven. Number is 602-371-8722. Good guy to deal with and reasonable. |
Posted By: 401MATCOUPE
Date Posted: Mar/31/2015 at 3:09pm
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68 and 69 AMX/Javelin are the same.....1970 AMX/Javelin is different P/N...they operate exactly the same, same pins, but one has longer shaft, sorry can't remember which one, so they are kind of one way interchangable (physically). ------------- Ross K. Peterson 68X,GoPac,343,AT,52A(1stCar) 68X,GoPac,390,4sp,52A 69X,GoPac,390,4sp,64A 70X,GoPac,390,4sp,87A,8 70X,GoPac,390,4sp,BBO,8 70 Jav SST,390,AT,BSO 74MatX,401,AT,Prototype 74MatX,401,AT |
Posted By: ramblinrev
Date Posted: Mar/31/2015 at 4:06pm
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Joe can correct me if I'm wrong, IIRC the '70 switch is the shorter shaft. I also think that switch almost operates as a variable speed switch (I haven't used the wipers on my '70 in forever...) rather than an off-low-hi switch. Paul Forgot to mention....the '70 one is hard to find. (Joe corrected me! Thanks for the excellent info and photos Joe!) ------------- 74 Hornet Hatchback X twins (since 1977) 62 American Convertible (still worth the $50 I spent in 1973!) AMCRC #513, AMO #384 70 AMX 360 4-speed (since 1981) |
Posted By: 401MATCOUPE
Date Posted: Mar/31/2015 at 5:38pm
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Paul....you are correct the switch is infinitely variable...and if I remember right you are correct on the 70 switch, I think the parts book straight up replaces the 68/9 with the 70 switch. ------------- Ross K. Peterson 68X,GoPac,343,AT,52A(1stCar) 68X,GoPac,390,4sp,52A 69X,GoPac,390,4sp,64A 70X,GoPac,390,4sp,87A,8 70X,GoPac,390,4sp,BBO,8 70 Jav SST,390,AT,BSO 74MatX,401,AT,Prototype 74MatX,401,AT |
Posted By: JKJavelin
Date Posted: Mar/31/2015 at 6:51pm
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I could not find a wiper switch when I converted my '70 AMX to electric 2 years ago. I found out from Eddie Stakes website that the Hornet/ Gremlin 2-speed switch is a good substitute... and it is. Part no. 365 7636. JK -------------  
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Posted By: 1970390amx
Date Posted: Mar/31/2015 at 7:06pm
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not sure it is correct but one is listed on e bay. 185$ If you have one that does not work it may be able to be fixed. ------------- 1970 390 4speed Bittersweet shadow mask AMX 1970 Amx missing most everything, or in a box |
Posted By: 71SC360
Date Posted: Mar/31/2015 at 7:26pm
| 70 uses the shorter shaft switch. The 68-69 switch is a bear to find, the 70's have become like hens teeth. |
Posted By: 71SC360
Date Posted: Mar/31/2015 at 7:58pm
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Ok... Here's the differences. This is to dispel any rumors. First, let me say that for all practical purposes all of these switches work the same and have the same connections. With a little work, you can use different year switches for any year car. This first pic is an overall pic. Starting left to right is an original 70 AMX or Javelin switch. It is short, like a Hornet switch but the stem is shorter than a Hornet switch. The second switch is an original 68/69 AMX or Javelin switch. It is longer than the other switches. Third up is a 70/71 Hornet switch. It is the same length as the 70 switch but the stem is longer so it would have to be cut down to be used on an AMX or Javelin. Last up is a 72 Hornet switch. Although it is very similar to the other switches, it can be easily identified by the stem tube's flat sides. Sorry about the condition of this switch. I had it apart for repairs.  70 AMX or Javelin switch... Part # 355 3761  68/69 AMX or Javelin switch... Part # 360 1621  70/71 Hornet switch..... Part # 361 5829  72 Hornet switch... Part # 365 7636 
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Posted By: hassyfoto
Date Posted: Jul/08/2022 at 6:52am
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Several years ago, I stumbled upon these two switches at a local AMC cruise. I was not 100% sure of the 1970 switch but took a chance and purchased both. (Not cheap) The 1970 Switch has been used as a guide for modifications to the 1972 Hornet switch. Obviously, the stem housing is different (flat side) but the stem housing and threads are exactly the same length as the 1970 switch. The center stem is longer which is the only issue. I measured the stem length and cut the Hornet switch to length of a 70 Javelin. It took a few hours, but I used a flat file to create the flat side in the stem and to create the large notch. I used a modeler file (1/4 wide & 3 inches long) to create the small notch. I had to keep test fitting the wiper knob until everything fit. The two switches in the photos are the last switches I have sitting around.   Because the 1970 Switch is so difficult to find, using the Hornet switch made since at the time. There are alternatives if you have the switch. There are vendors that can repair a switch. I am aware of several friends that had worked performed on non-AMC switches for rebuild and proper operation.
------------- Murphy's Law: Any given mechanical job you decide to solve alone will imminently require a third hand, at its most critical moment |
Posted By: ramblinrev
Date Posted: Jul/08/2022 at 7:09am
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Nice work and good information! ------------- 74 Hornet Hatchback X twins (since 1977) 62 American Convertible (still worth the $50 I spent in 1973!) AMCRC #513, AMO #384 70 AMX 360 4-speed (since 1981) |
Posted By: JGRANTAMX
Date Posted: Jul/08/2022 at 7:31am
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I have a good used 72 Hornet/Gremlin? switch available that's been tested if anyone needs it I bought from a member here a few years ago. J  |
Posted By: BDCVG
Date Posted: Jul/09/2022 at 10:22pm
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What price for the switch? ------------- 1970 AMX 390 5 spd full Control Freaks front and rear suspension 2014 E63 AMG-S wagon 1965 Austin-Healey 3000 MK III |
Posted By: JGRANTAMX
Date Posted: Jul/10/2022 at 4:14am
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In 2016 I paid $125 I will sell it for that plus actual shipping. J
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Posted By: george w
Date Posted: Jul/18/2022 at 12:24pm
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The upshot of all this is to NOT throw away a bad switch. It; most likely can be repaired. Just as an FYI, 1967, 68 and, possibly 69, big body cars: Rebel, Ambassador, Marlin with electric wipers also used an electrically identical switch. I would assume parts can be swapped around between the various versions to repair a faulty switch. ------------- Long time AMC fan. Ambassador 343, AMX 390, Hornet 360, Spirit 304 and Javelin 390. All but javelin bought new. |
Posted By: madams
Date Posted: Jul/18/2022 at 5:04pm
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I have made a working switch from 2 broken ones for 68-69 AMX/Jav. The shaft was locked-up/broken on one and I don't recall the details, but there was some kind of cam-like affair in the section of the rotation to turn it off that was broken in the other. Looks a little sketchy as you have to carefully bend the housing out/back-in to hold it together. Just keeping it for a spare, but have fully tested it with a motor and it seems to work fine. ------------- 68 AMX 390 4SP 67 RS Camaro 327 Auto |