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Topic: Australian motorsport AMC's
Posted By: 70Hornet
Subject: Australian motorsport AMC's
Date Posted: Jan/03/2013 at 10:49pm
We have changed this thread heading so we can talk about any AMC's that have participated in ANY form of motorsport within Australia. This includes road racing, drag racing, hill climbs, speedway etc. Whether they raced in the past, or are racing now, or maybe there are whispers of a future AMC racecar to be raced in Australia we want to hear about or see them all. Can be at a national or club level or maybe even a race project that was built but never got onto the track. Doesn't matter how minor a part the car played we would love to hear about or see a pic of ANY AMC's that have raced or are racing within Australia (or New Zealand, can't leave you guys out Wink). If it's AMC, and it's motorsport related, we would love to hear about it. Tongue 
 
 
 
Just wondering if anyone has any info or pics of a Hornet that still runs on Victorian speedways in one of the sedan classes in OZ. Have seen it mentioned in speedway magazines etc but never seen a pic. Would be great to see. Any other Ramblers out there still on the speedways of Australia? There used to be a few in the late 60's and early 70's apparently. I have a pic of a Rambler Classic? coupe from eally 70's on the Sydney Showground somewhere which I will try 2 scan and get up on forum when I find it again in one of my old speedway racing magazines I have collected over the years



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Posted By: WesternRed
Date Posted: Jan/04/2013 at 7:50am
Couple of pictures of Ben Ludlow's Gremlin that ran in WA many moons ago:





Then a couple of pictures of the 73 Javelin that came afterwards, raced from 1988 to 1993 and pretty much dominated in its class I believe:






After that I think it might have been late model sedans running AMC power until a few years beck when he crossed over to Mopar engines


Posted By: 70Hornet
Date Posted: Jan/04/2013 at 6:48pm
Wow thanks mate for the pics of speedway Gremlin and Javelin. They raced a few interesting cars over in WA. IE Vosbergen? raced a De Tomaso Pantera etc. The Rambler coupe I mentioned in first post was driven by Scott Dillon who is a famous Australian Surfboard maker and surfer who raced speedway in late 60's, ealry 70's. Once I find the pic I have I will put it up. It was a Classic or one of them styles of Rambler but with many fibreglass panels, which was rare back then, but easy for him as he had the facilities to make them from his surfboard business.  Anyone else know of any other Ramblers run speedway in OZ?


Posted By: WesternRed
Date Posted: Jan/05/2013 at 10:44am
I think Ben's Javelin has a fair bit of fiberglass bodywork going on too, because this old wreck was apparantly used to make moulds off. You can see one of the moulds still sitting on the roof and the rear wheel arches have been flared out for the bigger wheels.



Posted By: 70Hornet
Date Posted: Jan/05/2013 at 3:41pm

Hard to believe an aussie Javelin can end up like that Cry  for a car that, in Australia,  cost twice as much as a Phase 3 GTHO Falcon back in the day. At least it got used for something (speedway) once it ended up like that though I suppose



Posted By: WesternRed
Date Posted: Jan/05/2013 at 6:21pm
It apparently had a bit of a hit causing some structural damage that back in the day wasn't considered worth fixing, probably in this day and age, considering the rarity of the cars it could have been put back on the road. The Ludlow's ran a fairly large wrecking yard that had a bit of a specialty interest in Ramblers, also had a couple of earlier Javelins that were cut up for parts.


Posted By: 70Hornet
Date Posted: Jan/06/2013 at 4:38am
Photo's of Ramblers in wrecking yards in Australia could be another interesting topic that could be added to this one on speedway cars as both usually meant the end of the line for the cars in question. Found pic of Scott Dillons Rambler. Looks like a 4 door 64 Classic (not a coupe like I first mentioned) and is sponsored by Grenville Motors which I believe was a major Rambler dealer in Sydney. It is on page 17 of a speedway magazine called 'SPEEDWAY superstars. Sideways in the 70's'. Still trying to figure out how to get pic onto forum as cut and paste are my limitations he he and it seems a bit more complex then that. No leads on  the Hornet  presently racing in speedway in Victoria yet?  And yeah the Ben Ludlow cars would have been spaceframe, fibreglassed panel cars but it is still cool to see the Rambler/AMC shapes on the dirt circuits.


Posted By: WesternRed
Date Posted: Jan/07/2013 at 2:19am
Here is that photo of the Scott Dillan Rambler Classic from 70Hornet



Posted By: aussie rambler
Date Posted: Jan/07/2013 at 2:34am
f/yeh!!!Clap

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bloody mongral bastard ramblers....lol..


Posted By: huddy1955
Date Posted: Jan/07/2013 at 5:19am
finally get to see some Aussie AMC Rambler racing history. 

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1955 Hudson Hornet Custom
1963 Rambler Classic 660 wagon
1969 AMX 343 auto NO# 09 of 24
1973 Rambler Matador Wagon 360
1985 Jeep J20 pick up 360
2000 Jeep Cherokee Classic
plenty of parts cars


Posted By: 70Hornet
Date Posted: Jan/07/2013 at 7:50am
Scott Dillon is still around and would have some cool pics and stories I reckon of his racing days with the Rambler if someone was able to get hold of him for a chat?
 
Below is cut and pasted from wikepedia;
Scott Brewster Dillon (born 19 August 1928) is an http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australia - Australian surfer.In 2004, Scott was inducted into the http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Surfing_Hall_of_Fame&=edit&red=1 - Surfing Hall of Fame as one of the original six legends of the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australia - Australian http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surfing - surfing industry.Scott Dillon owns a http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surfing - surf and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shark - shark museum near http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coffs_Harbour,_New_South_Wales - Coffs Harbor, http://en.wikipedia.org/wikiew_South_Wales - New South Wales, called http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legends_Surf_Museum - Legends Surf Museum.
 
and from http://www.thejohnharding.com/archives/00001347.htm - http://www.thejohnharding.com/archives/00001347.htm
 
In addition to his ocean adventures, Scott Dillon became a high ranking speedway driver at the Sydney Showground and Liverpool Speedways. He was team captain for interstate contests in midget speed cars and sedans 1966 to 71.



Posted By: 70Hornet
Date Posted: Jan/08/2013 at 3:51am
The speedway Hornet is out there. Below is a paragraph on the net from an Avalon speedway meeting in Victoria. Not sure what date
Anyone know this guy (Dean Weston) or seen the Hornet in action if it is still running?
 
From http://www.speedway.net.au/archive_release.asp?NewsId=21411 - http://www.speedway.net.au/archive_release.asp?NewsId=21411
Parry in the ‘Ipta Fibreglass/Drew Towing Removals XE Ford’ jumped away early from pole in the first heat of the evening and from out of position 6 Justin Drew he tentatively made his way through the field in his first hit out in the new racecar. It was to be Parry who would win from Drew who took a long time to get by McElroy VL Commodore. Then came Billy Reick, Nathan Drew VL Commodore, Dean Weston ‘Ultra Tune Rambler Hornet’, John Paul, Gary Mckenzie and Scott Mallon driving the Nissan Skyline.
Doesn't mention a date though
 
Have cut and pasted from website same as Scott Dillon paragraph so hope reads OK as the Scott one added a heap of mumbo jumbo after posting onto forum making it hard to read


Posted By: 70Hornet
Date Posted: Jan/08/2013 at 11:12pm
Talked to Dean Weston today who used to race a Hornet on the speedway and who is going to email some pics of his Hornet racing on the speedway in Victoria (Avalon, Warnambool etc). Car hasn't raced for awhile but he still has the car. Looking forward to seeing some pics of a Hornet in action on an aussie speedway, painted in the good old red, white and blue AMC colour scheme too Tongue. Apparently there have been at least another couple of Hornets running speedway in the past so if anyone has any pics that would be great. Watch this space Big smile


Posted By: WesternRed
Date Posted: Jan/11/2013 at 6:18pm
Couple of pictures of the Dean Weston Hornet courtesy of 70Hornet





And a bit of a spiel from the owner himself:

Here are pic's of my 2nd speedway Hornet, the 1st one I bought in 98 raced one meeting, rolled it and destroyed it as another car helped me into a 3 turn rollover . I did restart it and drove it on to the trailer but to damaged to race again.

The next day I chased up another rough Hornet I'd sold to a bloke
years earlier, I started building it myself and took a few years to get
racing again after family problems. Always fast but very unreliable
and difficult to get to handle but great fun to drive . Until it
finally got too bent after an infamous wall climbing race at Mildura speedway.


Posted By: 70Hornet
Date Posted: Jan/24/2013 at 2:36am
I am going to shoot an email off to Scott Dillons surf museum in Coffs when I get a chance to see if he would like to share some pics and stories of his speedway racing days in the Rambler Classic. Stay tuned :-)


Posted By: 74gremx
Date Posted: Jan/25/2013 at 7:54pm
Looking through some old photo albums and came across these. I can't remember who gave them to me but would go back to the mid '80's.



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1970 Javelin 360/727
1974 Levis Gremlin X 304/904
1964 American Convertible
1974 Matador wagon (parts)
2016 Holden Cruze Equipe
2014 Holden Colorado
"Don't mistake activity for achievement".






Posted By: 70Hornet
Date Posted: Jan/25/2013 at 8:14pm

Wow! That car looks cool as! Smile I reckon there are plenty more pics of racing AMC's in Australia. Keep em coming in Tongue



Posted By: WesternRed
Date Posted: Jan/25/2013 at 9:12pm
Looks like another WA car given the sponsorship, might have run in the North West of the state.


Posted By: WesternRed
Date Posted: Jan/25/2013 at 9:41pm
Just found this great website with a lot of old speedway photos on it:
 
http://www.oldtimespeedway.com/" rel="nofollow - http://www.oldtimespeedway.com/
 
Another one of Ben Ludlow's Gremlin:
 
 
 


Posted By: WesternRed
Date Posted: Jan/25/2013 at 10:53pm
Just fixed up the photos of Ben's Hornet on the first page as I found a better copy of one and realised I had double posted the same photo rather than 2 different ones. Looks like the Gremlin raced in the late 70's.

Here is what looks like an earlier incarnation of the Javelin from 1980, back half looks a bit un-javelin but seems to have the humps of the front fenders:




Posted By: WesternRed
Date Posted: Jan/26/2013 at 12:38am
Obviouslty too much spare time on my hands today, some footage fo the 1981 Aussie Speedway Championships with the Gremlin in action:
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwQC8pO3Crk" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwQC8pO3Crk
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rd4mW35kUM" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rd4mW35kUM
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUf-N8rWBLo" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUf-N8rWBLo
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2zJYOeCC3w" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2zJYOeCC3w
 
Did someone mention a speedway Pantera? I think that can be seen running around early in the race.
 
 


Posted By: 70Hornet
Date Posted: Jan/28/2013 at 2:35am
Originally posted by WesternRed WesternRed wrote:

Just fixed up the photos of Ben's Hornet on the first page as I found a better copy of one and realised I had double posted the same photo rather than 2 different ones. Looks like the Gremlin raced in the late 70's.
 
Here is what looks like an earlier incarnation of the Javelin from 1980, back half looks a bit un-javelin but seems to have the humps of the front fenders:
 
Keep em coming WesternRed Smile. Although something looks a bit funny on this Javelin I actually reckon it could be a steel one. Possibly 68/9/70 shell with later guards maybe? The footage of the little speedway Gremlin on youtube you linked to on forum was amazing to see. The Gremlin was at the pointy end but someone made a comment that he chose the wrong tyres that night and they were down to the canvas by end of the race. Speedway really meant something years ago and tracks like the Sydney Showground etc regularly made city newspapers front page etc so having the AMC's participating back then would have been really something Smile 


Posted By: huddy1955
Date Posted: Jan/28/2013 at 3:31am
Nice pictures guys and great aussie AMC history.  

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1955 Hudson Hornet Custom
1963 Rambler Classic 660 wagon
1969 AMX 343 auto NO# 09 of 24
1973 Rambler Matador Wagon 360
1985 Jeep J20 pick up 360
2000 Jeep Cherokee Classic
plenty of parts cars


Posted By: ozziamc
Date Posted: Jan/31/2013 at 12:23pm
the last pic looks like an early Jav with later gaurds on it.



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74 hornet hatch

69 AMX 3 of 24 AMI build


75 sportabout



81 Concord

all Right Hand Drive


Posted By: 70Hornet
Date Posted: Feb/01/2013 at 7:42pm
Originally posted by ozziamc ozziamc wrote:

the last pic looks like an early Jav with later gaurds on it.

Yeah I agree I reckon that's a steel car alright. Would have been awesome to see and hear this car roaring around the dirt speedway


Posted By: 70Hornet
Date Posted: Mar/04/2013 at 11:27pm
Talking about racing Ramblers did any Ramblers race at Phillip Island or Bathurst at all. There was Toyota Corona's, Corolla's and Triumphs etc in the late 60's which were AMI products and certainly in the case of the Corona's factory backed so I am wondering did any Ramblers have a crack at it? Although not AMC related Studebakers got pole position a couple of years in a row so i reckon somewhere up the back of the grid a Rambler must have had a go? 1 of the 24 AMX's was showcased at the 69 Bathurst on the sunday apparently. Did it do any demo laps? Anyone got pics or info? Any other speedway or road racing Ramblers (sports sedans, drag racing etc etc) Tongue


Posted By: huddy1955
Date Posted: Mar/05/2013 at 3:42am
A Kaplan prepared 69 Trans-am Javelin did make it's way over to Australia for the touring car championships if I'm correct but never made it to any tracks (the car still survives and has been raced in recent times). I myself have visited the Bathurst Race car Museum a few times and read a few books on the History of Mount Panorama but never have found recorded information on any AMC been raced there.

Hudson on the other hand have a fabulous history at Mount Panorama dating back from the 30's to the 50's whilst competing in the Australian Grand Prix with mixed results. Conrod Straight was named after a 1935 Hudson 8 driven by Frank Kleinig who broke a con rod whilst in the lead. Murrays Corner was named after Jack Murray smashed his Hudson into a fence heading into pit straight.  There are many more stories like this that are related to the Hudson Motor car. The good old days. 

It is so unfortunate that most Australians think motor racing at Bathurst started in the 60's. 


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1955 Hudson Hornet Custom
1963 Rambler Classic 660 wagon
1969 AMX 343 auto NO# 09 of 24
1973 Rambler Matador Wagon 360
1985 Jeep J20 pick up 360
2000 Jeep Cherokee Classic
plenty of parts cars


Posted By: WesternRed
Date Posted: Mar/05/2013 at 5:10am
The T/A car has been discussed before on the other forum:
 
http://amccars.net/cgi/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1267142973" rel="nofollow - http://amccars.net/cgi/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1267142973
 
Based on the quote from Ronnie Kaplan and the fact that according to others the car received here apparently didn't have the necessary chasis and suspension mods for racing, it seems that it might have just been a regular CKD car rather than a true Transam car. All just speculation from my end though, would be nice to know the real story from someone who was there.


Posted By: 70Hornet
Date Posted: Mar/05/2013 at 6:06am
Originally posted by huddy1955 huddy1955 wrote:

A Kaplan prepared 69 Trans-am Javelin did make it's way over to Australia for the touring car championships if I'm correct but never made it to any tracks (the car still survives and has been raced in recent times). I myself have visited the Bathurst Race car Museum a few times and read a few books on the History of Mount Panorama but never have found recorded information on any AMC been raced there.

Hudson on the other hand have a fabulous history at Mount Panorama dating back from the 30's to the 50's whilst competing in the Australian Grand Prix with mixed results. Conrod Straight was named after a 1935 Hudson 8 driven by Frank Kleinig who broke a con rod whilst in the lead. Murrays Corner was named after Jack Murray smashed his Hudson into a fence heading into pit straight.  There are many more stories like this that are related to the Hudson Motor car. The good old days. 

It is so unfortunate that most Australians think motor racing at Bathurst started in the 60's. 
Yeah I just googled makes of cars that have run at Bathurst and no mention of any Ramblers. It's a shame coz I reckon some of the early V8 Classics etc would have given the Studebakers (who got pole position! Twice!!) etc a run for their money. And I think most people are aware there was racing at Bathurst way back to at least the 30's, on dirt I think very early on, it's just that it's value for production car racing gave it a boost in early 60's and became the main race on the Australian calender that most of us grew up with. There is some amazing Aussie racing history slowly being lost and forgotten. Just a look a speedway people don't realise how big it really was (especially compared to now) and some of  it's OZ history gives you goosebumps with the racing staged at many old agricultural showgrounds throughout OZ such as Sydney Showground, Sydney Cricket ground right next door, Cumberland Oval held speedway, a track made by and behind Windsor RSL, a big Concrete mile speedway bowl at Maroubra (which they dug a part of it up a few years back when they went to build some units) etc but most people think only sprintcars and Parramatta and Fords/Holdens and Bathurst. Although there are books out there (and now stuff finding it's way onto the net) that will help preserve it. Talking of preserving some racing history I am still trying to get hold of Scott Dillon and some more pics and history of his Grenville Motors speedway Rambler Classic which would have run at the Sydney Showgrounds and Liverpool etc Smile   


Posted By: WesternRed
Date Posted: Mar/18/2013 at 7:25am
Just found this in the ongoing quest for knowledge:

From the Javelin Register of Australia

1969 Javelin Race Car - (pictures not available) as told by John Caddy's son Andrew.

In 1968 John Caddy of VIS Con Transport in Darwin talked to Harry Tedstone, the American Motors representative at AMI in Port Melbourne.

Harry Tedstone's long time friend Carl Chuckmakian had been involved with the introduction of Trans-Am racing to AMC. John Caddy's idea was to campaign a Javelin in the Australian Touring car championship as two-door cars were allowed to be used and the engine size limit allowed the 390 cu.in. to be used. A car duly arrived, supposedly it was prepared by Ronnie Kaplan. Two 20' containers arrived in Perth and were transported by Vis Con's own trailer by road. When the containers were opened container one had a base line Javelin with optional suspension, 390 engine and T-10, traction bars by factory and heavy duty front sway bar but it was not race prepared in any way.

The second container had a Kaplan prepared 390 engine with headers, cross ram etc., flared front fenders, hood to clear the engine, racing brakes for front and rear, Panhard bar, beefed up suspension arms, quick ratio PS, 15" wheels without tyres.

It was all there but not assembled. This was not what John Caddy had expected to arrive. He had expected a turn key car with spare engine ready to race. After many phone calls to Chuckmakian he agreed to have Kaplan help in any way he could across the pacific. John Caddy had his mechanics assemble the car and near the end of 1969 the Javelin was beginning to look like a race car. Then Ronnie Kaplan quit, Roger Penske took over the team to prepare the cars for 1970. John Caddy did not have an agreement with Penske. His agreement for help was from Kaplan, with Kaplan gone, so was the help.

As the 1970 season began in Australia the car that could have beaten the Jags and maybe the Mustangs sat dejected in a corner of the Vis Con workshop in Darwin. Eventually Caddy had the car de-tuned and painted gold for the street and drove it for 10 years around Darwin still LHD, the hot 390 was raced in a boat in NT and Queensland.

FOOTNOTE: This Javelin is now painted Red, White & Blue and being race prepared by its current owner, Ray Sprague, of Melbourne. Actually Ray has been testing her out around the banked track at Calder Park and isn't giving away any secrets

 
 


Posted By: 70Hornet
Date Posted: Mar/20/2013 at 11:17pm
Would people like me to change this "Australian speedway AMC" thread to ""Australian racing AMC's"" or ""Australian Motorsport AMC's"" which could cover ALL road racing, drag racing and speedway racing and any other motorsport where an AMC was raced in Australia?



Posted By: WesternRed
Date Posted: Mar/21/2013 at 2:55am
What I suggested in the AMX thread, is that the particular car we are talking about probably should have it's own thread because it is a significant one of one car. I guess we could cover other aussie AMC race cars here though. There is probably a couple of cars that compete at club level in hillclimb and road course type stuff, the Jim Richards Javelin and a few of ust that have the odd run at the drags. I don't know if there are any historical drag racers of significance. I did try to start an aussie time slip database on the other forum, but getting facts and figures is another thing. 


Posted By: 70Hornet
Date Posted: Mar/21/2013 at 3:20am
Tongue No dramas a thread on this big banger Javelin sounds good. This Javelin sounds very interesting and from the sounds of it was going to run in the 'Improved' Production class of the time with Bob Janes Camaro, Moffats Mustang and Beecheys Monaro etc. Pity it didn't happen Cry. Changing thread name was just a thought as thread could cover ALL motor racing that AMC's are, or have, taken part in within Australia and we had made some good ground with the speedway stuff to lose it to another thread. There is a yellow Gremlin strutting it's stuff on the strip at the moment and I reckon there might be some other odd bod cars over the decades that have been practically forgotten about. Certainly Jim Richards Javelin would fill a good amount of thread and if I ever get my butt into gear and track down more info on Scott Dillons Grenville Motors speedway 64 Classic would be good (Scotts surfboard museum is temporarily closed but I will contact Coffs Harbour info centre soon). Hudsons at very early Bathurst meetings that Huddy55 was talking about would be very interesting too.  Also the Hornet that got in top 20 at Summernats could fit in, in a roundabout way as some class this activity as a sport. I think I might still change thread to ""Australian AMC motorsport History" 


Posted By: WesternRed
Date Posted: Mar/21/2013 at 3:42am
No reason not to, we have probably covered about as much speedway stuff as we are going to find anyway.


Posted By: 70Hornet
Date Posted: Mar/21/2013 at 4:33am
Just got to figure out how to change it? I sent a message to fella who changed the AMX one to ask directions. There is still a little bit of speedway stuff to go. Dean Weston (blue and the yellow speedway Hornet) ran a Hornet in the red/white/blue colour scheme and is still to send pics of it and has some footage of it going up and over the fence at a major speedway meeting apparently. I am also very interested in finding out more of the Grenville Motors 64 Classic as Scott was very famous for his Aussie made surfboards and the sedan class he ran the Classic in was a major motor racing class in OZ at the time (plus he raced speedcars and was OZ team captain on occasions as well) so I think he might have had a good go of it and there will be some good pics floating around somewhere? But yeah AMC motorsport involvment in OZ seems limited but I reckon some good stuff will turn up. Jims Javelin will have sparked some interest in any motor racing history. Talking of Jim's Javelin I saw a pic of the car he started with (on this forum? I can't remember) and it was a Green Javelin sitting behind someones fence and looks to be an unrestored RHD 74? I didn't think any 74's came out here? maybe converted although looks so original may have been coverted back when almost new?


Posted By: WesternRed
Date Posted: Mar/21/2013 at 6:16am
Jim's car was a private import, not one of the original aussie cars. It had been converted to RHD but they put it back to LHD for racing because apparently Jim prefers to drive on the left these days. He has certainly spent a lot of time driving left hook cars. They race it as a 72 model even though it is not and of course it doesn't have AMC power either. I think we can all live with that just to see it on the track.


Posted By: 70Hornet
Date Posted: Mar/22/2013 at 12:25am
We have changed this thread heading so we can talk about any AMC's that have participated in ANY form of motorsport within Australia. This includes road racing, drag racing, hill climbs, speedway etc. Whether they raced in the past, or are racing now, or maybe there are whispers of a future AMC racecar to be raced in Australia we want to hear about or see them all. Can be at a national or club level or maybe even a race project that was built but never got onto the track. Doesn't matter how minor a part the car played we would love to hear about or see a pic of ANY AMC's that have raced or are racing within Australia (or New Zealand, can't leave you guys out Wink). If it's AMC, and it's motorsport related, we would love to hear about it. Tongue 


Posted By: huddy1955
Date Posted: Mar/22/2013 at 2:41am
Just of interest, Jim's Javelin was owned by Andrew Page back in the 80's. I have an issue of Restored Cars when Bruce Neasmith did an article on Andrews no #03 AMX and the green 73 Javelin at the same time. I will scan it and post it down the track.

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1955 Hudson Hornet Custom
1963 Rambler Classic 660 wagon
1969 AMX 343 auto NO# 09 of 24
1973 Rambler Matador Wagon 360
1985 Jeep J20 pick up 360
2000 Jeep Cherokee Classic
plenty of parts cars


Posted By: Ray Bell
Date Posted: Mar/24/2013 at 7:42am
Quote Originally posted by huddy1955
.....Hudson on the other hand have a fabulous history at Mount Panorama dating back from the 30's to the 50's whilst competing in the Australian Grand Prix with mixed results. Conrod Straight was named after a 1935 Hudson 8 driven by Frank Kleinig who broke a con rod whilst in the lead. Murrays Corner was named after Jack Murray smashed his Hudson into a fence heading into pit straight.  There are many more stories like this that are related to the Hudson Motor car. The good old days. 

It is so unfortunate that most Australians think motor racing at Bathurst started in the 60's.


So true....

A couple of things here. First, it was Bill Murray who 'named Murray's Corner' driving the ex-Les Burrows 1934 Hudson Special. I think it was also this car that named Con-Rod Straight in the manner mentioned... at least present owner Peter Hitchin seems to stick in my memory as having told me that.

I've actually competed in this car. I ran it at a hillclimb at Collingrove in SA back in 1977, while I also drove it around the fabulous Lobethal road circuit a few times and also around Nuriootpa. The car had raced at Lobethal in 1939 and had finished one race (in third place, IIRC) crossing the line with one of its wire wheels missing.

As for Kleinig, he was the driver for Gus McIntyre. Gus owned cinemas during the depression, which was a licence to make money. He commissioned the building of the McIntyre Hudson and it cost about twice the price of a new Rolls at the time. The car was built initially to compete in a race the length of Africa (Morocco to Durbin or similar) but it was never held. Among its features was provision for a spare bottom end to be chained in place over the back axle!

But Frank wasn't McIntyre's driver when the car was being created... he was the riding mechanic and the luckier one when the car in which he was riding overturned at Phillip Island.

I can't at the moment find my complete list of drivers who've raced Hudsons or Hudson-powered cars in Australia, but it is a long list. Even without Speedway cars, of which I remember seeing some at Westmead in the early sixties.

As for Ramblers, I know nothing of any Ramblers racing in Australia. Nor Nash, but it is possible that at some obscure race meeting one did run some time in the late thirties or forties. None ever ran at Bathurst, nor was a Nash engine ever used in a car contesting the Australian Grand Prix.

One Rambler connection with one of our fastest drivers, however, is prominent.

A grey Rambler was driven on the road by Niel Allen during his E-type and Lotus Elan racing days, while in the F5000 era he drove a Javelin. Both were generally bedecked with good looking young women who always seemed to be a part of his entourage, one of them being his wife.



Posted By: WesternRed
Date Posted: Mar/24/2013 at 8:04am
Hey Ray, thanks for the input, looks like you got my email. I thought you might have a some useful information to add here.


Posted By: Ray Bell
Date Posted: Mar/24/2013 at 8:09am
Not a problem...

I'll come back with more when I get a chance.


Posted By: huddy1955
Date Posted: Mar/25/2013 at 3:46am

Here is the 1935 Hudson McIntyre Special. This photo was taken by my mother in 1971 at the CVVTMC car show that was held at Warwick Farm. Clive Gibson (former mechanic to Frank Klienig) owned it and restored it at the time. This picture was taken before I was even born. 




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1955 Hudson Hornet Custom
1963 Rambler Classic 660 wagon
1969 AMX 343 auto NO# 09 of 24
1973 Rambler Matador Wagon 360
1985 Jeep J20 pick up 360
2000 Jeep Cherokee Classic
plenty of parts cars


Posted By: Ray Bell
Date Posted: Mar/25/2013 at 3:51am
Yes, that's the car all right...

Clive unfortunately died last year, a great old bloke with a terrific memory of all those years he spent as Kleinig's apprentice and mechanic. He was a very keen photographer too, and had movies of some events.

He restored the car as it is above, ultimately it was sold to Ray Pank in SA IIRC. The race car, however, and by that I mean the real 'Kleinig Special' which was built on an MG chassis with the straight 8 Hudson engine and all of that stuff, is in Melbourne now.

See if I can come up with a good pic of it...


Posted By: 70Hornet
Date Posted: Mar/25/2013 at 4:02am
Cool pic Huddy55. Did this little McIntyre special have a straight 8? Would have been a quick old girl Smile Great stuff


Posted By: huddy1955
Date Posted: Mar/25/2013 at 4:16am
Hi Ray, I too have met Clive on a number of occasions, I have been a member of the Hudson Club in NSW for about 20 years and also a past editor for almost 10 years. Clive was such a nice gentleman. Clive fitted one of his Gibson - Bink 308 two piece head on my grandfathers 57 Hudson back in the early 70's. We still have the 57 Hornet now but the head is now long gone. I know who has the moulds for the head but it is not for sale.

here is the same car in racing trim





Here is the Klienig Special







This is the speed boat "Hornet" built by Clive Gibson and Harry Bink. It features the famous Hudson 308 cu side valve 6 cyl. It has the Gibson - Bink two piece head fitted and a 671 blower. Clive purchased left over Hudson Engines from AMC back in the early to mid 60's.  I have at home 3 spare 308 Hudson blocks that came from Clive. One of which has a massive 4" bore. Clive had trouble with the 4" bore motors, the cylinder walls collapse.  



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1955 Hudson Hornet Custom
1963 Rambler Classic 660 wagon
1969 AMX 343 auto NO# 09 of 24
1973 Rambler Matador Wagon 360
1985 Jeep J20 pick up 360
2000 Jeep Cherokee Classic
plenty of parts cars


Posted By: huddy1955
Date Posted: Mar/25/2013 at 4:19am
Originally posted by 70Hornet 70Hornet wrote:

Cool pic Huddy55. Did this little McIntyre special have a straight 8? Would have been a quick old girl Smile Great stuff

Yep straight 8 side valve of 254 cu, very smooth running engine when stock


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1955 Hudson Hornet Custom
1963 Rambler Classic 660 wagon
1969 AMX 343 auto NO# 09 of 24
1973 Rambler Matador Wagon 360
1985 Jeep J20 pick up 360
2000 Jeep Cherokee Classic
plenty of parts cars


Posted By: Ray Bell
Date Posted: Mar/26/2013 at 7:52am
Yes, that's the photo of the Kleinig Hudson I was thinking of...

It was taken at Rob Roy hillclimb some time between 1948 and 1950, Clive reckoned that Frank's best time up the hill, the record, was set after Frank expressed his concern to Clive about changing into a higher gear at the top of the hill.

Clive thought about it. This was just to cover the last few yards of the hillclimb and he told Frank to leave it in the lower gear and hold it flat. Splash fed bearings and all.

"A couple of seconds at 7,000 revs won't hurt it!" he told Frank.

The colour pic of the Kleinig I'm sure I've seen too, undoubtedly from Clive's collection. Do you also have the pic of the McIntyre sitting on its belly after destroying all its wire wheels at the Hartley hillclimb?


Posted By: huddy1955
Date Posted: Mar/27/2013 at 2:57am
I have seen that Hartley photo but I don't have it. I think I saw it in the Restored Cars years ago. 
I may have a copy somewhere.

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1955 Hudson Hornet Custom
1963 Rambler Classic 660 wagon
1969 AMX 343 auto NO# 09 of 24
1973 Rambler Matador Wagon 360
1985 Jeep J20 pick up 360
2000 Jeep Cherokee Classic
plenty of parts cars


Posted By: Ray Bell
Date Posted: Mar/27/2013 at 3:34am
I have it on a hard drive I can't access at the moment...

Along with a bunch of other stuff Clive gave me.


Posted By: WesternRed
Date Posted: Mar/27/2013 at 7:17am
I caught an episode of the aussie car show "Wide Open road" on SBS the other night, it incuded a bit of coverage of the Redex trials back in the 50's and I noticed a hudson in the mix. Anyway, a bit of googling shows that there were a few Hudsons and a Nash in the 1953 trial.
 
The two fellow mentioned above  Frank Kleinig and Clive Gibson ran a Morris that year and finished first in their class.
 
South aussie legend Clem Smith drove a 1934 Hudson Terraplane in the 1953 trial (Car No. 155), others were R.E. Gudgeon, Hudson (Car No. 47 DNF), S.J. Carpenter, another Terraplane (Car No. 56), F & J Maguire, 1928 Nash (Car No 81), T Mills, Hudson (Car 173), J.A. Witter, another Hudson (Car No. 189).
 
Gudgeon was back in a Hudson again in 1954.
 
So far I haven't come up with any photos of the Redex cars but there are a couple of interesting links below to other stuff.
 
Few more great Clive Gibson photos here:
 
http://aussieroadracing.homestead.com/Clive-Gibson.html" rel="nofollow - http://aussieroadracing.homestead.com/Clive-Gibson.html
 
Les Burrows 1936 Terraplane:
 
http://acms.sl.nsw.gov.au/item/itemDetailPaged.aspx?itemID=19164" rel="nofollow - http://acms.sl.nsw.gov.au/item/itemDetailPaged.aspx?itemID=19164


Posted By: WesternRed
Date Posted: Mar/27/2013 at 7:44am
Pinched this one from the National Motoring Racing Museum (Bathurst) website.

1937 Hudson Terraplane, this classic car first raced at Bathurst in 1950 and was built by Stan Carpenter and Ron Reid. It has a six Cylinder engine and a Humber gear box. It last raced at historic car meetings in 1989.This vehicle is kindly on loan to the National Motor Racing Museum by Mr John Herman.



Posted By: Ray Bell
Date Posted: Mar/27/2013 at 5:41pm
Did I hear somewhere that Ron Reid took his wife on their honeymoon in the Carpenter Terraplane?

Good to see that some of Clive's shots got up there on the Brian Darby site, too.

With reference to Les Burrows (father of Alan Burrows, who raced in the sixties and seventies, grandfather of Alan's son whose name I've forgotten, but who ran in Sports Sedans into the eighties), the '36 model shown is a straight 8 whereas he normally ran a six.

His cars had Kleinig modifications, in particular the little external oil pump that put a little pressure into a copper pipe inside the crankcase, this being perforated in just the right spots to squirt oil into the dippers on the end of the conrods and thus keep in the big ends at revs.


Posted By: Ray Bell
Date Posted: Mar/27/2013 at 5:42pm
Oh yeah... don't forget that Kleinig also ran a 203 in a RedEx event...


Posted By: 74gremx
Date Posted: Mar/28/2013 at 4:24pm
Found this in an old (1993) Restored Cars magazine





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1970 Javelin 360/727
1974 Levis Gremlin X 304/904
1964 American Convertible
1974 Matador wagon (parts)
2016 Holden Cruze Equipe
2014 Holden Colorado
"Don't mistake activity for achievement".






Posted By: WesternRed
Date Posted: Mar/28/2013 at 5:30pm
That is such a cool looking machine, now I wan't one.
 
Smile


Posted By: Ray Bell
Date Posted: Mar/28/2013 at 7:12pm
Heh...

If he was 70 in 1993, and lived at Gumeracha when he was a kid, he'd have seen Kleinig in action at the fabled, beautiful and unsurpassable Lobethal circuit.

He'd have been at an impressionable age when the Australian Grand Prix was held there, when The Maestro, Alf Barrett set the lap record in his 1932 Alfa Romeo Monza and Kleinig near-equalled it.

It's said that 60,000 people turned out that day and stood in the hot sun to watch the race. On the greatest circuit this country has ever seen... or will ever see. Ten times as good as Bathurst.


Posted By: WesternRed
Date Posted: Mar/28/2013 at 7:52pm
Found another photo of the 88 Terraplane in action at Amaroo Raceway



Posted By: Ray Bell
Date Posted: Mar/28/2013 at 8:50pm
Numbers can change each race meeting, and often do...

This is the Carpenter Terraplane.

I wonder how Ronnie Reid felt running his little Sulman Singer against this car?


Posted By: WesternRed
Date Posted: Mar/29/2013 at 3:40am
Thought it was the same as the car at the Bathurst museum posted before the red one?


Posted By: Ray Bell
Date Posted: Mar/29/2013 at 6:04am
Yes, it is the same one...

It's called the Carpenter Terraplane after its builder.


Posted By: WesternRed
Date Posted: Mar/29/2013 at 6:18am
Cool,but I'm still wondering what happened to the red one, if old Ron was 70 on 1993, he would be getting on a bit now, wonder where the car is now? Havng someting like that to run around in your paddock in would be one of life's greatest experiences I reckon. You can see how cars like that influenced modern day sprint cars.


Posted By: Ray Bell
Date Posted: Mar/29/2013 at 7:12am
He could well still be flinging it around his property...

1993 is pretty 'modern' by the way. it might even be the rear of an old body off a sprint car.





Posted By: 70Hornet
Date Posted: Apr/03/2013 at 6:13am
Originally posted by WesternRed WesternRed wrote:

Here is that photo of the Scott Dillan Rambler Classic from 70Hornet:
 
Talked to Scott Dillon yesterday. What a top bloke. He is in his late 80's and some of the things he has done is amazing. Makes my life seem very dull and boring but as he said "we only hold ourselves back from doing what we want to do. Get out and do whatever you want to do and give it 100% coz once you are gone you are dead for a very long time". He was a champion boxer in the 50's, top class surfer and surfboard maker, was heavily involved in spear fishing and was a very successful speedway racer in Speedcars and sedans in Australia, travelling to America with Mike Raymond racing tour etc. 2 of his sons are/or have been a part of the Crusty Demons motorbike stunt show. We talked about all sorts of things and the Rambler was only mentioned a handful of times coz some of the other stuff we were talking about was so interesting. (he is looking for a Ghost writer to put his story together if anyone out there knows of some-one in this field) The Rambler classic was one of the 1st cars to have mostly fibreglass panels (his previous Holden EH speedway car which won the very first big sedan 100 lapper was the first). Many speedway racers got him to build their fibreglass sedan, speedcar and super modified bodies which nearly overtook his Scott Dillon surfboards. He was sponsored by Grenville motors whom he remembers sold Mercedes as well. Scott didn't have too much to do with the set-up of the car other then making the fibreglass panels. Amazingly he only has 1 photo of it at the Sydney Showground but I have left an email with an Australian vintage speedway photo website to look out for any of Scott's Rambler or any other Ramblers that may have torn up the speedways of the late 60's early 70's.  Was great chatting with him and I hope to do it again so if you have any specific questions to ask about the Rambler pop me a private message and I will ask him next time and put it all together in a future post.


Posted By: WesternRed
Date Posted: May/03/2013 at 6:06pm
Let's get some of these hillclimb photos up.

First one is Ray Sprague's AMX, very well know car at the Mount Tarrengower hill climb and at other events around Victoria, this one is an import I believe, not to be confused with the Aussie spec car that he has had from new. These photos are from 2008:





Here is some youtube footage from the same event:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVDh5-1IPKY" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVDh5-1IPKY

and first up on this video from the Eddington sprints in 2007:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gYRE62ZsTE" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gYRE62ZsTE

Found a picture of this AMX at Tarrengower in 2009, don't have any details though:



This next car is  Goran Troselj's 1970 Aussie Javelin #23 running at the Rob Roy hilclimb in Victoria, the car is running a 390, 4 speed combination. Last I heard the car had been sold to a new owner, so not sure what it's doing now.









Posted By: Ray Bell
Date Posted: May/04/2013 at 5:59am
Good hillclimb action shots there...


Posted By: 70Hornet
Date Posted: May/07/2013 at 7:48am
Yeah I agree. Ace shots westernred! That's what this thread is about. AMC's being driven (or at least have been driven) in anger Tongue Good stuff


Posted By: 70Hornet
Date Posted: May/11/2013 at 4:51am
Originally posted by WesternRed WesternRed wrote:

  
 
Found a picture of this AMX at Tarrengower in 2009, don't have any details though:
 
http://smg.photobucket.com/user/HardVG/media/MtTarrengower2009_zpsa092de2c.jpg.html" rel="nofollow">
 
http://smg.photobucket.com/user/HardVG/media/RobRoyVHRR060507elgeeB361_zps0b8e9155.jpg.html" rel="nofollow -
 
http://smg.photobucket.com/user/HardVG/media/RobRoyVHRR060507elgeeB365_zps2e10ac99.jpg.html" rel="nofollow -
 
http://smg.photobucket.com/user/HardVG/media/RobRoyVHRR060507elgeeA677_zpsb2e1fc9c.jpg.html" rel="nofollow -
 
http://smg.photobucket.com/user/HardVG/media/RobRoyVHRR060507elgeeA085_zps400d242c.jpg.html" rel="nofollow -
There is a picture of this car in Restored Cars #179 Page 38. Says "This 1970 AMX is owned by Ray Sprague of North Melbourne". 


Posted By: WesternRed
Date Posted: May/11/2013 at 6:35pm
Ah, so it is, he must have left the red one home that year, sounds like he has a bit of a collection going.


Posted By: 70Hornet
Date Posted: Jun/26/2013 at 4:46am
Rob Roy Hillclimb in Victoria was on again on sunday June 23rd. Anyone know if any AMC's had another crack and have any photo's by chance? Saw an ad for it last week in Herald Sun. I think ANYONE can have a go at it and you can even enter teams. Wonder if we should try an AMC team one year just for the fun of it Smile


Posted By: WesternRed
Date Posted: Aug/09/2013 at 8:44am
From Mopar Sunday:
 


Posted By: 70Hornet
Date Posted: Oct/12/2013 at 8:26pm
Just watching Bathurst and they are calling the 2 Nissan's the "Norton Hornets". Sounds like a good enough reason to cheer them on I reckon. Go the Hornet's!!!!Tongue  


Posted By: 74gremx
Date Posted: Oct/12/2013 at 10:34pm
Hornet name or not, I'll be following Nissan as the 'underdog' against Ford & Holden. Is that why I've got Ramblers perhaps ?

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1970 Javelin 360/727
1974 Levis Gremlin X 304/904
1964 American Convertible
1974 Matador wagon (parts)
2016 Holden Cruze Equipe
2014 Holden Colorado
"Don't mistake activity for achievement".






Posted By: 70Hornet
Date Posted: Oct/13/2013 at 1:31am
The yellow Norton Hornet Nissan's were probably the nicest looking cars too Smile 


Posted By: 70Hornet
Date Posted: Dec/17/2013 at 4:48am
Australia's only registered Gremlin at the drags in Sydney Australia
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mw7VFcaG46Q" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mw7VFcaG46Q
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lY0wT1MKIBw" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lY0wT1MKIBw
 
I had a chat with the owner the other day. Very interesting little car (I forgot to ask him about the rear seatbelts, if any, GremX) It has a blown AMC 401. The block was a new old stock item bought from Jim at Mascot Motors when it was open. Hopefully he may be able to make the trip for the 1st annual Australian AMC/Rambler & 60th anniversary AMC show in Albury next year but he is a busy fella so we will have to wait and see. It would certainly attract a LOT of attention I reckon as most of us have never seen one in person. Here's hoping Smile 


Posted By: idrambler
Date Posted: Dec/17/2013 at 9:37am
Pretty cool....thanks for posting.....

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Jim....AMCRC
Treasure Valley AMC Club, Pres
69 AMX 401/727
74 GremlinX 401/727race only
73 Matador 2dr HT 360/727


Posted By: WesternRed
Date Posted: Dec/17/2013 at 4:04pm
That's pretty awesome, fairly safe to to say it is the quickest AMC in Australia, at least with AMC power anyway. Might have to resurrect the Aussie 1/4 times thread. 


Posted By: WesternRed
Date Posted: Dec/18/2013 at 4:43pm
One more for the collection thanks to some detective work by 70Hornet, another speedway Hornet from back in the 80's.





Posted By: WesternRed
Date Posted: Dec/18/2013 at 4:45pm
Looks like things didn't end well



Posted By: WesternRed
Date Posted: Dec/26/2013 at 2:33am
Here is a good one of Ben Ludlow's Gremlin after a big win. Just check out the cars in the background:




For Facebookers, there is lots of good stuff on the Ludlow Racing page:

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=572477626131383&set=a.142981719080978.24354.142978769081273&type=1&theater#!/pages/Ludlow-Racing/142978769081273" rel="nofollow - https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=572477626131383&set=a.142981719080978.24354.142978769081273&type=1&theater#!/pages/Ludlow-Racing/142978769081273




Posted By: spottydog360
Date Posted: Dec/26/2013 at 7:56am
Was that his race suit?



Posted By: 70Hornet
Date Posted: Mar/03/2014 at 9:20pm
Hi everyone
I was forwarded Ben Ludlow's phone number the today. I am going to give him a ring in the not too distant future. If you have any questions you would like me to ask him about his shop, speedway cars, the 30 or so 290ci V8 Hornet conversions etc etc please put questions up here or PM me and I will ask him. Will be VERY interesting having a chat with Ben as he has a rich history with the AMC/Ramblers Smile 


Posted By: huddy1955
Date Posted: Mar/04/2014 at 3:10am
Good stuff mate.


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1955 Hudson Hornet Custom
1963 Rambler Classic 660 wagon
1969 AMX 343 auto NO# 09 of 24
1973 Rambler Matador Wagon 360
1985 Jeep J20 pick up 360
2000 Jeep Cherokee Classic
plenty of parts cars


Posted By: spottydog360
Date Posted: Apr/11/2014 at 9:46pm


Posted By: spottydog360
Date Posted: Apr/11/2014 at 9:54pm
the previous pic is our 69 aussie jav that a previous owner was setting up to go racing in some form or another,the front has been heavily modified as you can see in the pic.We purchased the car from the next owner,and have no idea how the front end was intended to be set up,the non javelin kframe has been welded in and a seventy model shock towers grafted in,I cant set the front end up right with stock control arms.Hoping someone might know of the cars history prior to our purchasing it  about 15 years ago,it was originaly mustard with a coat of red over the top.dont have ID tag but door tag reads  6979-5k.
Car was last on the road in 85,interior fire was I think what put it off the road originally,one of the previous owners collected some 70 parts that came with it,including a white interior.Love to know if anyone remembers this car


Posted By: spottydog360
Date Posted: Apr/11/2014 at 9:58pm
quarter panel troughs removed and vent plenums,lots of work done here.


Posted By: spottydog360
Date Posted: Apr/11/2014 at 10:18pm


Posted By: spottydog360
Date Posted: Apr/11/2014 at 10:37pm
The car as we found it in the Shed(not barn)


Posted By: 70Hornet
Date Posted: Apr/13/2014 at 6:34am
Originally posted by spottydog360 spottydog360 wrote:

It's amazing how some of these cars ended up considering how expensive they were new. Raf's red 68 Javelin that was at the 1st annual Australian AMC/Rambler show last month was rescued out of a paddock for $90 back in 2000 and restored beautifully to what it is now. There is a story of Raf's Javelin in the latest Australian Classic Car magazine (issue 246 with a Capri on the front). Hope you find some info on the history of your car. Someone out there will know something about it.


Posted By: 70Hornet
Date Posted: Jan/14/2015 at 7:45pm
Originally posted by spottydog360 spottydog360 wrote:

Hi mate. Did you end up finding out any history about your Javelin? If not you can send the guys at the Australian Muscle Car magazine a photo and some info and they would put it in the section called "Muscle Assist" where they help people track down their old cars or info on cars they own now. Would be worth a try but make sure you mention it is an Aussie Javelin and they would put it in the magazine for sure as they are really interested in our cars at the moment. They can be contacted on mailto:amceditorial@chevron.com.au" rel="nofollow - amceditorial@chevron.com.au and let Luke know Jason steered you that way. Would definatly be worth a try.
 
Also for those interested the racetrack I mentioned that was going to be a part of the 2nd annual Australian AMC/Rambler show (at the Chryslers on the Murray) has been officially booked for the friday in March this year. It has been a long process and was up in the air for awhile and was only booked the other day so thats why there hasn't been any mention of it in the programme/entry forms etc until now. It is a CAMS approved track, just under 2km long I think?, and will available on the friday 13th March for anyone wanting to test their AMC/Rambler out in anger. You do need to book as places on the day are limited and enquiries can be made mailto:info@chryslersonthemurray.com" rel="nofollow - info@chryslersonthemurray.com  . Anyone is welcome to be a spectator and it is only 10 minutes on the Melbourne side of  Albury/Wodonga. You don't need a fast angry car at all to have a fun squirt around the track in your AMC/Rambler. You just need a sense of ADVENTURE Tongue see you there


Posted By: WesternRed
Date Posted: Feb/02/2015 at 6:40am
Some pictured doing the rounds show that the new Jim Richards Javelin is just about ready to hit the track, but before we get to that, here is a little background on the car:



By the way, Craig also imported my 71 AMX and at least a couple of others.

Here are a couple of pictures of Jim's car during the build:

A few bits like the cage were salvaged from the old car:







And finally the finished product, looks absolutely fantastic and I think set to make it's debut at the Clipsal 500, from Feb 26th to March 1st this year:









Posted By: idrambler
Date Posted: Feb/02/2015 at 9:36am
Sweet!!.....very nice....

-------------
Jim....AMCRC
Treasure Valley AMC Club, Pres
69 AMX 401/727
74 GremlinX 401/727race only
73 Matador 2dr HT 360/727


Posted By: WesternRed
Date Posted: Feb/05/2015 at 5:16am
Here you go boys:

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=847302015334429&set=vb.133305266734111&type=2&theater" rel="nofollow - Javelin Shakedown


Posted By: 70Hornet
Date Posted: Feb/06/2015 at 5:16am
Does anyone know when it will have its first race? That is one tough looking racecar whether you are an AMC fan or not Smile


Posted By: 70Hornet
Date Posted: Mar/23/2015 at 4:39pm
There is a real good 6 page article on Jim Roichards new Touring Car Masters Javelin in latest edition of Unique Cars Issue 373 March12. What a tough looking car!!! Tongue 


Posted By: WesternRed
Date Posted: Mar/24/2015 at 2:35am
There is a thread here;

http://www.theamcforum.com/forum/aussie-humpster_topic55628.html" rel="nofollow - http://www.theamcforum.com/forum/aussie-humpster_topic55628.html

with additional coverage on Jim's Javelin and YouTube links for the first couple of races.


Posted By: WesternRed
Date Posted: May/22/2015 at 12:56am
My Javelin having a run at Perth Motorplex last Wednesday night.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmxUgx0J_VM" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmxUgx0J_VM



Posted By: 70Hornet
Date Posted: May/22/2015 at 3:35am

Its refreshing to see an AMC getting used properly. Is the 13s the best ever? That's pretty quick when you hear all the old guys rave about GTHO PH3 doing only 14.2 or whatever it was. Great stuff Smile Also its amazing how shiny the surface of the first 200 or so metres is in the video. Is it that shiny in real life or was it just the camera?



Posted By: OzJavelin2
Date Posted: May/22/2015 at 5:32am
Sweet!!


Posted By: WesternRed
Date Posted: May/22/2015 at 4:19pm
I ran a PB of 13.104 @ 105 mph on the night, can't seem to find the extra thenth to get it into the 12's. Bit hard to compare it to Aussie muscle back in the day as it is obviously modified from stock, but the Aussie spec Javelins were good for mid 16's from the factory, so it has come a long way. They spray the track with VHT traction compound, that's why it's shiny and very sticky too.


Posted By: Aus69Jav
Date Posted: May/25/2015 at 6:19pm
Great video, nice to see the car on the track.
Are you running the BW M12?
If so how is it going with a bit of track use.




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