287 V8 vs 232 I6 race
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Topic: 287 V8 vs 232 I6 race
Posted By: nali
Subject: 287 V8 vs 232 I6 race
Date Posted: Mar/11/2010 at 6:50pm
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A friend of mine has a 287 V8 . I have a 232 I6 . We have an appointement on September 06 , for a local meeting here in Canada . The goal : be first on the 1/4 . The price for the winner is a cleanner at Petrocanada :P ( Well , just have the car washed ) Anything is possible . Both cars are daily , and we don t have money . Junk parts are allowed . Just keep the block stock . Rebel : l es pas si mal mon anglais pour un gars de Toulouse :P ------------- No more car :) Maybe a 1965 Ambassador Coupé someday .. If I can find a cheap one. |
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Posted By: Rebel 287
Date Posted: Mar/11/2010 at 9:02pm
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Pas pire,pas pire.....
I gess you talk about me........  ------------- I know how to write....in french at least |
Posted By: nali
Date Posted: Mar/11/2010 at 9:38pm
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Sure you re right , you re a Canadian :P
------------- No more car :) Maybe a 1965 Ambassador Coupé someday .. If I can find a cheap one. |
Posted By: Rebel 287
Date Posted: Mar/11/2010 at 9:51pm
 ------------- I know how to write....in french at least |
nali wrote:Posted By: nali
Date Posted: Mar/14/2010 at 9:38pm
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As we are quite fairplay , Rebel offered me a Eaton M62 blower and nice Rambler carpets . ( Carpets makes us run faster , remember Alladin ... ) . This makes me forget till fall the 3 Roch B :P So I have to find him a 4 barrels intake for a 287 . Same as for a 327 . Even in bad or even bad shape , I look for this . Even a 287 , which could be modded , I can deal with this . Help me helping him , I m quite sure my 232 can beat his V8 :P Hope this is quite correct for Sickthick :P ( Sorry , just a joke :P ) ------------- No more car :) Maybe a 1965 Ambassador Coupé someday .. If I can find a cheap one. |
Posted By: Rebel 287
Date Posted: Mar/15/2010 at 6:47am
This what i call hope.....
 ------------- I know how to write....in french at least |
Posted By: Rebel 327
Date Posted: Mar/15/2010 at 11:59am
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No Habla Canadian---Sprecken de Spanish? ------------- Rebel 327 4-speed |
Posted By: Rebel 287
Date Posted: Mar/15/2010 at 12:56pm
Does my accent is that readable? ------------- I know how to write....in french at least |
Posted By: Rebel 327
Date Posted: Mar/15/2010 at 11:20pm
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What accent? I just don't get the words!
Save your money on the 4-bbl for the 287. Rebuild a good 2-bbl and you should be good. My best advice is to stay OUT of the racing groove. That sticky stuff will just slow you down. I doubt if you will have a problem with traction. ------------- Rebel 327 4-speed |
Posted By: Rebel 287
Date Posted: Mar/16/2010 at 7:02am
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The 287 already have a 4bbl on a modified 2bbl intake,just thinking about
getting the real stuff since the alum. intake aren't in plan t'ill next winter.....
And oh,tanks for advice....
I'll beat that dead slow Ambo  ------------- I know how to write....in french at least |
Posted By: TinMan
Date Posted: Mar/16/2010 at 1:36pm
That will probably be a good power improvement. My brother had a 4bbl (750cfm Holley I think) on his Chevy 400, but it was on a 2bbl intake and it ran terrible, he saved up for a nice aftermarket 4bbl intake and it made a lot more seat-of-the-pants power and responded better. |
Posted By: Rebel 287
Date Posted: Mar/16/2010 at 1:47pm
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Shure,but here you don't see them too often
So,i do what i can with what i have,with a lot of fine tuning
it run great on this setup....
But shure would run better with the real thing...  ------------- I know how to write....in french at least |
Posted By: nali
Date Posted: Apr/28/2010 at 6:39pm
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Working on this . I got a Jeep intake /exhaust . The head fits nice , unless the water port to fill ( strokers know it s not a problem ) The exhaust doesn t match , because of the starter . It s on driver side , and quite big . Someone ( sorry don t remember ) told me a 69/71 starter is smaller . Quite hard too find here , and mine works great . So I have to deal with it . Just have to go around this beast :P So .. The Jeep exhaust is now cut in 3 pieces , I have to get U bend and weld them . Not a big problem . It takes much more time thinking than doing . The intake is way too long . Can t fit , because of linkage . I don t even have a power brake ..... So I ll have to cut it , and make it weld to a plenum ( can t weld aluminium , don t have the right gas ) . The only problem , for now , is oiling the rockers . Didn t check yet , but the 232 has a solid bare where oil come from . The 4.0 use ( I think ) oil through push rod . Just have to hope I can find a cam kit with pierced hydraulic lifters :P Maybe I will have to use external oiling ... What I found funny is that quite nobody made this upgrade , just one guy on the Gremlin forum , but he stopped for a whole engine/trans upgrade . ------------- No more car :) Maybe a 1965 Ambassador Coupé someday .. If I can find a cheap one. |
Posted By: poormansMACHINE
Date Posted: Apr/28/2010 at 8:45pm
| All replacement valve lifters will have the proper hole to lubricate through the push rod. |
Posted By: nali
Date Posted: Apr/28/2010 at 8:54pm
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Good news :P So I won t have to built an ugly thing trough the valve cover . Is it enough to lubricate rockers ? ------------- No more car :) Maybe a 1965 Ambassador Coupé someday .. If I can find a cheap one. |
Posted By: poormansMACHINE
Date Posted: Apr/28/2010 at 9:04pm
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The newer rocker style is designed to be lubricated from the lifter and through a hollow push rod. The later push rod will have a hole in each end. |
Posted By: nali
Date Posted: Apr/28/2010 at 11:37pm
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I think an unknow Master Yoda offered me his gratefull help :P Details later ( maybe 3 monthes , limit is 06 Sept ) This forum is great :) Give and you ll have . ------------- No more car :) Maybe a 1965 Ambassador Coupé someday .. If I can find a cheap one. |
Posted By: billd
Date Posted: Apr/29/2010 at 6:42am
Just so the two holes in each end connect to each other.... ;-) -------------  http://theamcpages.com" rel="nofollow - http://theamcpages.com http://antique-engines.com" rel="nofollow - http://antique-engines.com |
Posted By: poormansMACHINE
Date Posted: Apr/29/2010 at 3:04pm
This is where diesel terminology would be the better choice. A push tube would refer to a hollow device. |
Posted By: nali
Date Posted: May/04/2010 at 11:26pm
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Mandrel bend 1 5/8 are difficult to find in Canada . 23 $ each , add shipping . I need 5 or 6 . So I got a used SBC headers from a 350 , for 75 $ . Already cut :P And welded ..... So for now , half of the dual is done . Just have to finish welding ( My Miller 211 is my best friend :) ) Would send pictures but my Kodak is dead . Sure you ll love it . I want to keep my starter . So I left about one inches back from the 4 5 6 headers . Hope it s enough . Will send pictures , it s funny . Home made exhaust is brain consuming .... Welding is the easy ( assuming you have a decent welder ) part . Thinking before is a pain .... My goal is a sound like this : <object width="480" height="385"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/Co4J5gWwitM&hl=fr_FR&fs=1&"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/Co4J5gWwitM&hl=fr_FR&fs=1&" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="480" height="385"></embed></object> I have 1 5/8 exhaust pipes lenght 10 inches .. I plan for 2 inches collector , 10 inches long , then 1 3/4 or 2 Cherry Bomb . Is this correct ? Will build the X pipe where the paint stop burning ( old trick from bommers ) :P Hope I speak correct , you may know I m French :P So ? ------------- No more car :) Maybe a 1965 Ambassador Coupé someday .. If I can find a cheap one. |
Posted By: nali
Date Posted: May/05/2010 at 11:50pm
http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=387&u=12474091"> http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=388&u=12474091">  I know the pictures are ugly . I used my video recorder since my APN is dead . I have no idea for the collector . Any ideas ? In a perfect world , runners would be the same lenght , Helmotz would be my best friend and 1 5/8 Edelbrook pipe would be about the same size as Jeep 1 5/8 :P We don t live in a perfect world ... Quite sure this can t be worst than the stock one . As a big lesson of humility , this work make me think I really have to improve my welding skills :P ------------- No more car :) Maybe a 1965 Ambassador Coupé someday .. If I can find a cheap one. |
Posted By: nali
Date Posted: May/06/2010 at 1:42am
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So any ideas for the collector ? I plan 2 inches and 10 inches long . Then 1 3/4 pipe and Cherry Bomb or Magna . On both side . Am I correct ? Took information from Jeep 235 Ford and Slant forums .... ------------- No more car :) Maybe a 1965 Ambassador Coupé someday .. If I can find a cheap one. |
Posted By: Wrambler
Date Posted: May/06/2010 at 9:18am
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Look for slip fit collector to exhaust reducers. You will possibly need 3.5" down to the 2" and that may be hard to find. Close the 3 tubes together with a flat plate in the center with C notches. Then form the reducer to be welded on the end of the pipes. You need to plan very carefully so that you can weld all areas. Don't get in a hurry or you may need to cut it apart and weld spots that you can't reach. For a 232 your pipe sizes should be fine. ------------- Wrambler 69 AMC Rambler 4.0L, 5 speed 2015 Grand Cherokee Limited 2019 Chrysler 300 |
Posted By: nali
Date Posted: May/07/2010 at 2:59am
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Well .... I m not sure I understand . I can build / bent the pipe for 3 to 1 . What I mean is , unless I misunderstood , exhaust / headers have 4 parts . The primary pipes ( mine are 1 5/8 ) , then a collector , quite large , where the pipes meet together , and than the exhaust pipe with a muffler . I think the collector size has a great influence on torque . I think mine will be 2 or 2/12 OD , and 10 inches long . Then the exhaust pipe can be smaller , I think 1 1/2 ou 1 3/4 . Remenber it s a dual exhaust , so only 3 cylinder will flow on each side . I m sure this is important , I changed my exhaust from stock size to 2 1/2 and I lost a lot of torque :) So I just wonder is anyone has experience with exhaust . I m really not sure of the size I have to use . But maybe I m wrong ? BTW , if I use 1 5/8 , it s because the Jeep header use 1 5/8 , so I just modify it to fit the 232 :) Good advice for planning , I had to cut / weld already hidden places :P It s quite brain consumig , and I hate thinking .... Not sure to understand what a split fit collector is ...... But I got pipe from Canadian Tire , I just have to heat it and this should be correct . ------------- No more car :) Maybe a 1965 Ambassador Coupé someday .. If I can find a cheap one. |
Posted By: nali
Date Posted: May/10/2010 at 8:30pm
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Toujours work in progress , The SBC pipe is 1 mm from the 1 5/8 I got . This may not make a big difference . I still have to improve my welding skills ... Farna , there s place enough between 3 and 4 , good news . With a Mig . Just have to take care , but I let about 1 inches pipe after cutting the flange , this help . Know this is not correct but you may understand :( I had bad choices , and not so good results , so it s not perfect . but , not so bad I think . Too lazy to rebuild all . First time I do headers , ans used parts are not the easy choice :P But cheap . http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=389&u=12474091">  http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=390&u=12474091">  Toujours photos pourries , dsl . Si j arrive a faire entrer la dedans autant que ca peut sortir , ca devrai flow assez pour l exhaust :P Post the same thing on 2 forums , but been too lazy to translate . You may understand :P ------------- No more car :) Maybe a 1965 Ambassador Coupé someday .. If I can find a cheap one. |
Posted By: nali
Date Posted: May/10/2010 at 11:43pm
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Forest , so now now I need the cam and how much to mill for the head :P The 456 are straight , error ... 123 will be much easier for the next step . ------------- No more car :) Maybe a 1965 Ambassador Coupé someday .. If I can find a cheap one. |
Posted By: nali
Date Posted: May/13/2010 at 12:30am
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Made one collector . Made from scrap computer sides :P But old computers , so it s gauge 16 :) . Took me 6 hours . Next one should take 2 hours ... A lot of hammering , thinking , welding , measuring , sitting and smoking .... http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=391&u=12474091">  Scrap picture .... ------------- No more car :) Maybe a 1965 Ambassador Coupé someday .. If I can find a cheap one. |
Posted By: forest
Date Posted: May/13/2010 at 9:22am
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Ill let you know in a PM how much to take off the head, and what camshaft to run later today..... ------------- setting guys out by car lengths.... |
Posted By: forest
Date Posted: May/13/2010 at 9:10pm
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honestly the headers dont look that bad at all to tell you the truth... good job for doing it at home man. PM has been sent on what you need to do on the head and also what camshaft to run.... ------------- setting guys out by car lengths.... |
Posted By: TinMan
Date Posted: May/13/2010 at 9:20pm
| I've got a really thin 258 head gasket I could send you if you'd rather not mill the head, Forest will have to tell you what it's good for because I don't know. |
Posted By: nali
Date Posted: May/13/2010 at 9:53pm
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Thanks Forest for your comments , I appreciate :) Never done this , and the first time is always very time consuming .... I use hand tools , scrap sheet metal , the only good thing I have is a Miller 211 and Internet :) Tinman : thanks a lot , but I m quite sure I can find a gasket for cheap . And I have to mill , or at least plan the head , so if I take care , any gasket from a local autopart can fit . ------------- No more car :) Maybe a 1965 Ambassador Coupé someday .. If I can find a cheap one. |
Posted By: nali
Date Posted: May/14/2010 at 11:09pm
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Headers quite finished . Need paint and a little grinding . And yes , this fit with a driver side starter .... http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=392&u=12474091">  http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=393&u=12474091">  ------------- No more car :) Maybe a 1965 Ambassador Coupé someday .. If I can find a cheap one. |
Posted By: forest
Date Posted: May/15/2010 at 9:41am
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not bad for a first timer.... keep it up.. ------------- setting guys out by car lengths.... |
Posted By: nali
Date Posted: May/17/2010 at 1:15am
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Now I know why I need a 18 cfm compressor . Mine will burn soon :P Not as good as Tinman s made by Forest , but my first time . And not finished , I now know why we need roller and why ppl found Forest work smooth :P I didn t touch the bottom , not much on top . The car will have a blower so I didn t work much in the exhaust , just cleaning sand cast .. http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=396&u=12474091">  http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=398&u=12474091">  http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=397&u=12474091">  For sure it s far from perfect . Still working on this . Never done before . I use YOUR skills :P I dont do much on the intake , cleaning ridges , etc . The car will have a blower , so this may push much more than what I could help it . Thanks all . ------------- No more car :) Maybe a 1965 Ambassador Coupé someday .. If I can find a cheap one. |
Posted By: nali
Date Posted: May/21/2010 at 1:44am
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I think it s quite finish. Well , just 6 hours left :P Now I know it s a lot of work :P I could use the stock cam . I could find a better one . Maybe the stock is right .. I have to build the intake , for a M62 Eaton . So the cam choice may make a big improvement . It s for sure far from perfect . A 4.0 head on a 232 is rare :P But I keep on working on this . Alone , of course :P Gonna mail Isky :P Will post pix when it s finished . In fact , I just clean the intake ( blower may blow ) and try to help the exhaust to purge what gets inside :P I make the exhaust has huge as the gasket ... Don t know if it will be good . Velocity is needed for incoming , I I dont know for exhaust .. I m just a Roockie , but I try :P ------------- No more car :) Maybe a 1965 Ambassador Coupé someday .. If I can find a cheap one. |
Posted By: forest
Date Posted: May/21/2010 at 10:24am
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dont make the exhaust as big as the gasket, I didnt even do that and it hurt flow... leave it where it is.. ------------- setting guys out by car lengths.... |
Posted By: nali
Date Posted: May/26/2010 at 2:33am
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I did Forest . Too late , I left 1 mm before the gasket . I didn t know .. So I won t have 350 HP , just 125 . Next time I ll do better :P Update so ... Now I have to build the intake . Just to see what this will look like .. :P http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=405&u=12474091">  I think I won t be able to see my exhaust anymore :P ------------- No more car :) Maybe a 1965 Ambassador Coupé someday .. If I can find a cheap one. |
Posted By: TinMan
Date Posted: May/26/2010 at 1:04pm
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Nali, a few things to feed your brainstorming: http://jeepin.net/forum/showthread.php?t=58906 - http://jeepin.net/forum/showthread.php?t=58906   |
Posted By: nali
Date Posted: May/26/2010 at 1:43pm
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Nice :P I can t have exactely the same setup . Mon blower has a short snout , and the runners on the Jeep intake are too long ( they touch the trans linkage ) . So I have to build a custom intake . Also , I didn t convert the 232 to injection , and don t know what I would need to do it , so I ll use a carb and blow tru the Eaton . ------------- No more car :) Maybe a 1965 Ambassador Coupé someday .. If I can find a cheap one. |
Posted By: nali
Date Posted: Jun/13/2010 at 9:48pm
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I wanted to use the stock Jeep intake abd modify it . It s aluminium . Just for welding a 4 inches pipe they ask 200 $ . So I have to do by myself . Runners , first try : Pattern made from scrap metal welded / grinded . http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=420&u=12474091">  The press frame was left by the previous owner of the house . I just had a cheap 2 tonnes "pusher" ( don t know the name ) . http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=421&u=12474091">  On gauge 16 . Not sure it s strong enough , the Eaton is quite heavy .. But I may support it from the engine mount . http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=422&u=12474091">  Flanges are 1/2 inch . Luckily , I only have 6 to make , each takes about 2 hours :P This should be one of the least expensive blower intake ever made :) The pipe I tried with is 1 5/8 . Way too big for velocity , I think . Hope the blower will help . And I just had this tonight .. ------------- No more car :) Maybe a 1965 Ambassador Coupé someday .. If I can find a cheap one. |
Posted By: forest
Date Posted: Jun/14/2010 at 12:38pm
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nali, you must draw air through the carb into the blower, DO NOT blow through it, you will have a huge headache trying to get it to run right and it will cost you a LOT of money in getting the right fuel pump, fuel lines, ect to make it work, drawing the air through the carb will be much better than blowing through it. Trust me please!!! ------------- setting guys out by car lengths.... |
Posted By: nali
Date Posted: Jun/14/2010 at 12:49pm
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That s exactly what I plan :P Just have to run a little rich to avoid detonation . The blower may not accept gas inside . At least not for a long time . I have to see with Maguson ( I think , or a name like this ) to have the right seals . So , no problem of shoke removal , special pump , and expensive carb . The icing is I can use my home made casting air filter . I don t do things by chance , I read a lot Forest :P Maybe with a custom steel intake I could feed the bottom of the runners ... Or you cares with a blower ? Thanks for your attention . Phil. ------------- No more car :) Maybe a 1965 Ambassador Coupé someday .. If I can find a cheap one. |
Posted By: forest
Date Posted: Jun/14/2010 at 1:58pm
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it will work fine for a while without the teflon rotor seals.. I would run a 2bbl carb as well, and get a MSD Digital 6 ignition with timing retard as well... you will need it not to detonate. ------------- setting guys out by car lengths.... |
Posted By: nali
Date Posted: Jun/14/2010 at 10:47pm
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Nothing done today . Had to see a doctor in the morning cause my brain makes stranges things since 3 years , and later had the kids for 2 or 3 days . Now I know it s easy to do , things will go fast . What s the easiest carb to tune ? Holley 500 cfm ? I can t tune it , a friend can . I like the Rochester Quadra I have on the 350 Olds ( good mileage , power when needed ), but there s so many pipe in this that it may be crazy to adapt on a blower . Price is an issue also . ------------- No more car :) Maybe a 1965 Ambassador Coupé someday .. If I can find a cheap one. |
Posted By: forest
Date Posted: Jun/15/2010 at 10:03am
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holley 500 cfm is a good carb for you... get one. ------------- setting guys out by car lengths.... |
Posted By: nali
Date Posted: Jun/17/2010 at 9:59pm
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A Quadrajet could ? I can have one for cheap . I have this on the 350 Olds , much power when I need ( read : I want :) ) But really good millage . There s a lot of vacuum pipes with it . It s not a carb , it s Alien or any HR Giger nightmare under a hood .... Not sure it could work with a blower whitout crazy tuning I m enable to do by myself :( Could ask friends , of course . But quite nobody know blowed or turbo engine , unlees the Honda guy near my home :) And it s injection , not carb .. ------------- No more car :) Maybe a 1965 Ambassador Coupé someday .. If I can find a cheap one. |
Posted By: nali
Date Posted: Jun/20/2010 at 1:49am
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Still work in progress . I made a patern to have the same shape for the runners and the intake . Just welding / cutting , and the press . http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=420&u=12474091"> http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=421&u=12474091"> http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=422&u=12474091"> The great 40 $ Canadian Tire press drill :P http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=433&u=12474091">  Flanges are 1/2 . A pity to adjust ... My carbure bit help a lot . But it still take hours to build one .. http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=434&u=12474091">  this is not a neon light . this is my plenum . Just have to cut / weld , it will be perfect and cheap . http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=435&u=12474091">  ------------- No more car :) Maybe a 1965 Ambassador Coupé someday .. If I can find a cheap one. |
Posted By: TinMan
Date Posted: Jun/20/2010 at 2:00am
Holy cow, those flanges must have taken forever to make that way. Is that $40 CAD, or $40 in Monopoly money? (Canadian tire money  )
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Posted By: nali
Date Posted: Jun/20/2010 at 2:15am
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40 real good CAD for the drill. I had this for Xmas 2 years ago . Do you have Cancan Tire in Illinois ? :P Not so bad , in fact . Take a long time , I drill 1/8 , then larger and finish with the carbure bit . The exhaust flange is the Jeep , so I just had to cut / weld pipes . With a good bit , it takes just 1h30 to make and finish a hole . I m lucky not to have a V16 .. There s a gap , but it will be easy to fill with the MIG . Do you like it ? :P Edit , for for fun , we are about 30 millioms happy to have Monopoly money each week :P We have houses , cars , some have dogs .. :P Don t take it bad . Just a joke . USD is not so strong now .. :P ------------- No more car :) Maybe a 1965 Ambassador Coupé someday .. If I can find a cheap one. |
Posted By: Rebel 327
Date Posted: Jun/20/2010 at 6:46am
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Nali--you are my hero! Keep up the cool work. What is being done to the 287??? ------------- Rebel 327 4-speed |
Posted By: TinMan
Date Posted: Jun/20/2010 at 1:10pm
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We don't have Canadian Tire, but I have a friend who lived in Vancouver for four years and she joked about how you might be able to buy things with monopoly money from there since Canadian Tire money looks so similar I'm interested to see what it is going to look like, keep us updated! |
Posted By: nali
Date Posted: Jun/20/2010 at 2:36pm
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That s right , it looks like Monopoly :) Rebel327 : nothing will be done to the 287 . It has a new carb ( a Holey I think ) , my friend would like to find an intake for a 4bbl , but it s difficult to find or expensive . ------------- No more car :) Maybe a 1965 Ambassador Coupé someday .. If I can find a cheap one. |
Posted By: poormansMACHINE
Date Posted: Jun/20/2010 at 3:48pm
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Posted By: nali
Date Posted: Jun/20/2010 at 7:52pm
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A 2 $ .. Wow ... This was for a big purchase , I mainly have 5 cents :P
------------- No more car :) Maybe a 1965 Ambassador Coupé someday .. If I can find a cheap one. |
Posted By: nali
Date Posted: Jun/20/2010 at 10:29pm
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My new friend :P http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=437&u=12474091">  ------------- No more car :) Maybe a 1965 Ambassador Coupé someday .. If I can find a cheap one. |
Posted By: TinMan
Date Posted: Jun/20/2010 at 10:37pm
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Pepe le pew! |
Posted By: nali
Date Posted: Jun/20/2010 at 10:40pm
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Yes :P She s a baby . Eyes still closed . It s a girl and I have to find a name ... Jeep ? :P ------------- No more car :) Maybe a 1965 Ambassador Coupé someday .. If I can find a cheap one. |
Posted By: nali
Date Posted: Jun/23/2010 at 10:21pm
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Intake quite done . http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=439&u=12474091">  http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=438&u=12474091">  I don t like my weldings . Welding gauge 16 to 1/2 is not so easy ... Pépé is dead . Surely a too young baby to live without her mother . Sad news .. ------------- No more car :) Maybe a 1965 Ambassador Coupé someday .. If I can find a cheap one. |
Posted By: TinMan
Date Posted: Jun/24/2010 at 4:09am
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Sorry to hear that about your new pet. Those welds don't look that bad considering what you're welding. You can always grind them down to clean them up a bit. I'm still interested to see how you're going to mount that supercharger on your plenum, keep us updated  |
Posted By: nali
Date Posted: Jun/25/2010 at 3:47am
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You ll see . In US you have the 4 th July . In Quebec it was today . So much time to work in the garage . No babes , no girl . Life is fun .... No fun in fact . Just have to do something . Too lazy today for pictures . I had to cut the trans linkage , not enough room . Will weld back later . Plenum quite finished . I really need welding school :P You ll soon see was I wanted a modular intake :P What I m building can use a Eaton or 3 Rochester B . Did you use the Quake ? We may be just 2 to have this on a hood :P The other one is on my Olds 1979 :P Would like to see it :P But ..it s yourse now , you don t have to . Désolé , j ai du mal avec les nuances an anglais parfois , mais j essaye . ------------- No more car :) Maybe a 1965 Ambassador Coupé someday .. If I can find a cheap one. |
Posted By: TinMan
Date Posted: Jun/25/2010 at 2:22pm
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It's on the Scout II Thanks again! I completely forgot. I will see if I can take some pictures of it tonight. It doubles as a crosshair for when I'm stuck in traffic on the way home from work  |
Posted By: nali
Date Posted: Jun/30/2010 at 11:01pm
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Intake quite finished . A pain to build ... The bottom will be a 3/8 alu polished . Frame from scrap metal found in the backyard . Finished with 20 gauge . A pain to weld ... http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=440&u=12474091">  http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=441&u=12474091">  http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=442&u=12474091">  http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=443&u=12474091">  http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=444&u=12474091">  Just don t ask , yes , it s long to build with hand tolls ... LangDetecten>fr GoogleC Pas la Peine de demandeuse, HNE c tres longtemps faire  http://www.google.com/search?q=Pas%20la%20peine%20de%20demander%20,%20c%20est%20tres%20long%20a%20faire"> < id="qtl" ="" style="display: none; border: 1px solid rgb236, 236, 236; : white;">------------- No more car :) Maybe a 1965 Ambassador Coupé someday .. If I can find a cheap one. |
Posted By: nali
Date Posted: Jul/05/2010 at 8:38pm
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Cheap sandblast cabinet :P Part laying around , and a working engine to make a dead drier blower work . http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=448&u=12474091">  http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=449&u=12474091">  http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=450&u=12474091">  I made "funnels" for the runners . I m sure this will add at least 25hp :) What is the right word for this ? Is funnel correct ? http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=451&u=12474091">  Aluminium 3/8 on top. Of course it will be polished . http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=452&u=12474091">  What I got , for now . http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=453&u=12474091"> 
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Posted By: TinMan
Date Posted: Jul/05/2010 at 10:10pm
| Looks awesome! What's it weigh? I would call those funnels "velocity stacks", but I am not sure if that is a car term too or just a motorcycle term. |
Posted By: nali
Date Posted: Jul/05/2010 at 10:14pm
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Ok , thanks :) Not too heavy , but I will had a piece of pipe from the intake to the motor mount to help . The runners are not so thick .. ------------- No more car :) Maybe a 1965 Ambassador Coupé someday .. If I can find a cheap one. |
Posted By: forest
Date Posted: Jul/06/2010 at 10:13am
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lookn good man, lots of hard work there, definitly put a brace from the bottom of the manifold to the motor mount... when the supercharger is under boost, it will put alot of stress on the mount... ------------- setting guys out by car lengths.... |
Posted By: nali
Date Posted: Jul/06/2010 at 2:56pm
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I had an idea .... The ignition works with both mecanical advance , and vacuum . I hope I will have pressure in the intake , not vacuum :) So how to deal with this ? Thanks . ------------- No more car :) Maybe a 1965 Ambassador Coupé someday .. If I can find a cheap one. |
Posted By: TinMan
Date Posted: Jul/06/2010 at 3:46pm
| Does your carb have vacuum ports on it? |
Posted By: nali
Date Posted: Jul/06/2010 at 3:48pm
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Well , I suppose .... I don t have the carb yet . A friend of mine will give me a Quadrajet or a Holley 500 , the one I want . I just have to go at his home and take it . ------------- No more car :) Maybe a 1965 Ambassador Coupé someday .. If I can find a cheap one. |
Posted By: nali
Date Posted: Jul/06/2010 at 4:39pm
 I m stupid ... For sure there will be vacuum just under the carb .... Damned pills :) ------------- No more car :) Maybe a 1965 Ambassador Coupé someday .. If I can find a cheap one. |
Posted By: nali
Date Posted: Sep/17/2010 at 9:27pm
http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=474&u=12474091"> It took a long time to clean / fix . Painting was just a 1 hour job . Now it s black satin . The engine will be red and chrome / polished aluminium . Still working . I think I will use a Megasquirt and injection . For sure this will be the only 232 supercharged / injected :P ------------- No more car :) Maybe a 1965 Ambassador Coupé someday .. If I can find a cheap one. |
Posted By: nali
Date Posted: Sep/19/2010 at 9:54pm
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Rebel played with Crayola , and had a great idea . I love this ... Even the color ...  Any ideas ? ------------- No more car :) Maybe a 1965 Ambassador Coupé someday .. If I can find a cheap one. |
Posted By: nali
Date Posted: Sep/20/2010 at 10:06pm
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Another idea. I think I could press the teeths from stainless or cast in aluminium . http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=635&u=12474091">  ------------- No more car :) Maybe a 1965 Ambassador Coupé someday .. If I can find a cheap one. |
Posted By: nali
Date Posted: Dec/07/2011 at 10:32pm
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The project has been waiting for a long time, but now I m very rich and can have the engine rebuild :) Well ... It s my own Chrismas gift in fact, I m still poor .... A few things have changed since the last post I made here. I really don t like the look of the blower with a carb. And the Eaton looks too modern. So the new idea is making another intake, since my metalcasting skills are better, and use 3 Rochester B carb with TBI. I m building a Gingery lathe, this will help. I plan to use mini TBI injectors from a Blaser on the top of 2 carbs, and the IAC on the third. So it will look vintage, I can relocate the Eaton but with a modern system and less detonation problems. Still planning to use Megasquirt. According to Forest advice, I plan to use a Comp Cams cam, but unfortunatelly I deleted the PM :( So ... I have to go to the machine shop tomorrow . Final plan : Stock trans ( already rebuilt), stock pistons, 5 or 6 psi of boost, dual exhaust, TBI injection. Is it worth using ARP bolts for rods or head ? If so, they are not listed on the ARP catalog for a 232. Are they the same as the 258 or the 4.0 ? Here s the kind of intake I plan to build. http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=884&u=12474091">  Thanks . ------------- No more car :) Maybe a 1965 Ambassador Coupé someday .. If I can find a cheap one. |
Posted By: tyrodtom
Date Posted: Dec/08/2011 at 8:16am
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Looks like someone fell in love with acorn nuts. A lot of carbs, when you consider the 4 little bitty intake runners. ------------- 66 American SW, 66 American 2dr, 82 J10, 70 Hornet, Pound, Va. |
Posted By: tsanchez
Date Posted: Dec/08/2011 at 8:53am
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Cool, thinking of putting the boat intake carb setup on my 287 ambo project just for fun ------------- http://s192.photobucket.com/user/antonsan/media/jav1_zps87a70dce.jpg.html" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: tyrodtom
Date Posted: Dec/08/2011 at 9:09am
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Would that happen to be a aftermarket intake for your 38 Buick ? ------------- 66 American SW, 66 American 2dr, 82 J10, 70 Hornet, Pound, Va. |
Posted By: DocCreer
Date Posted: Dec/08/2011 at 11:12am
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Cool intake...looks vintage. ------------- 61 American 82 eagle limited |
Posted By: nali
Date Posted: Dec/08/2011 at 6:18pm
No. it s just a picture I found on The Hamb. I don t think there s been Buick intake like this one, but who knows ? I t s just an intake I like and is a source of inspiration to build one like this for the Rambler. And being two parts, it s quite easy to build. BTW, the engine I have for the Buick is a 1951 263, instead of the 1938 248. Modern crank bearing, instead of babbit, and a lot of small improvements. In fact, I plan to have a similar setup later on the Buick, with a Paxton. The 232 is a mock up. I prefer to break a 232 , learning, than a rare 263 :P Here s what I plan to do with the Buick : (this is a Gimp, there s no Photoshop on Linux :P ) http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=850&u=12474091">  And yes, the mags are Minilite like the austin Mini Cooper .... But so .... ARP bolt or not ? ------------- No more car :) Maybe a 1965 Ambassador Coupé someday .. If I can find a cheap one. |
Posted By: DocCreer
Date Posted: Dec/08/2011 at 7:09pm
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that is a awesome buick...unique drivetrain makes it even cooler,same with the rambler. ------------- 61 American 82 eagle limited |