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    Posted: Apr/22/2021 at 8:47pm
Anyone used the Powerforce Plus Damper sold by Professional Products on a 401?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote amxdreamer Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Apr/22/2021 at 9:21pm
it wouldn't even fit on the crank in my 360
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I use 'em.  Modest price for a new part that meets SFI requirement required at the track for a car that runs in the 10s.  There are two problems with these dampers.  One, as Tony says is the fit is incorrect.  My machinist had to massage it with a flapper wheel to get it to fit and so expect to work on it to get the fit right.  With a tight balancer you need to use an installation tool, not just pull it on with the crank bolt.  Second issue is the timing marks are off.  I read as much as 8 degrees, mine personally was about 5 degrees.  I get stuff balanced and I check TDC so I know where the timing is but it is a pain in the behind.  You can meet the minimum requirement for an SFI balancer for less than $300 bucks or you can buy an aluminum hub BHJ for $600 which is unquestionably a superior balancer.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote Trader Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Apr/23/2021 at 12:30pm
Don't know the SFI rules, but would it not be better to just broach a new keyway so the timing marks align? You have it at the machine shop anyhow and broaching a new keyway would be less then a hours work once the location is determined, and that should not be terribly hard either.
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Broaching is  $$$.  And it's generally not done anymore unless it's a mass production item.  Wire EDM is the standard now for one and two parts that need an internal keyway.    And it'd have to be off a lot to add a new keyway- not 8*.  It's a lot cheaper to just draw a new TDC line with a sharpie.  
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Anyone know where I can get a Romac external balance?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote Trader Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Apr/24/2021 at 7:25am
Just getting old Steve_P. We used to broach keyways all the time as the hubs came in as blanks. Many we had to bore to size first. I have my own broach set for up to 1" ID hub and the set was not that expensive in the 80's. I looked up the EDM and really wonder if there is any gain from this technology as setup and process time is so much more for any one offs?
Anyhow, a new timing mark can be put in with a square/scribe/file and your right as being the cheapest option. People still have/use these hand tools right?
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Go call on the Romac.  I think the supplies are all dried up right now.
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68 Rogue, Last I knew Alfano had Rollmaster in stock.  I got an internal balance version just a few months ago.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote SC397 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Apr/25/2021 at 9:00am
I have use a few of them too. Be careful which timing cover you use.
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