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maximus7001
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Wash machine will be a regular 120v North American 3 prong plug socket. The wash machine will run off of any normal 120v 3 prong socket in the building. It is the electric dryer that is 220/240v. An electric stove will also be 220/240v but may have a different plug type than the dryer. I once had a Lincoln 220v welder and made a special extension cord that plugged into where the stove plugged in and the other end of the cord connected to my 220v welder. The stove was 18 feet from the parking spot. When I moved from that house to a condo I sold that welder since I had nowhere to plug it into anymore. I have a similar blue Mastercraft Canadian Tire 120v welder to the one you have but it is the mig gas version that can also use flux core wire too. I have plugged it into many 120v sockets. There are 3 kinds of North American 3 prong 120v sockets, 15amp, 20amp and 30amp. 15 is not enough amps for welding some things and will trip the breaker. A 20amp one will work for everything with this welder. The 30amp ones uses a completely different kind of plug end than the 15 and 20 and is not commonly used in a residence if at all. If you make an adapter to plug your 120v welder into 220/240v you will blow it up and probably cause a fire. Edited by maximus7001 - Nov/13/2021 at 8:08pm |
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Or you can just buy the adapter as they are legal, example:
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The Titanium and Mastercraft are 2 different welding machines by design.
The Titanium is an inverter machine that not only makes the welding voltage more stable, more adjustable and also the big factor - flattens the frequency to provide an even current flow. The Mastercraft pictured is a transformer welder that puts out 60 Htz, 1/2 pulse DC current. My neighbor has the exact same welding machine. You get what you pay for.
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1958 rambler super
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Maximus.... Why do you think I would damage the welder and maybe cause a fire? Won't the welder only "draw" as much power as it needs and not too much (maybe you meen that all the power of 220 will all flow to the welder instead of 120, or just 20 amps and not 30amps?)
I did some more investigating, the washer is only drawing 10 amps.
Trader posted a adapter ( cost $99...) That can be used for the idea in question, trader.... Do you agree if the welder is plugged into that adapter it could possibly cause it to be damaged? I was also thinking of ways around this problem, I could rent a 10,000 watt generator ( oh geeeeeeze..... Renting a uhual truck again to go get it....ugh) the cost for renting it would be over $400 a week, and the cost of the truck would be ?? Haven't figured that out yet. But maybe if the adapter solution isn't as dangerous as maximus suggested, that would obviously be much easier, but I still wonder why maximus advised me using that solution might blow up the welder... I also bought a better welder too! It's a Lincoln electric MIG 140, I wanted a welder that inspired more confidence! And I have also come to think it's a better welder for some reason. Edited by 1958 rambler super - Nov/20/2021 at 10:35pm |
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That 240/120 adapter listed above will work just find IF you have the female receptacle that it fits. That adapter is designer for a NEMA equivalent of a 14-30R receptacle. The 14-30 has both phase leads, a ground, and the neutral. The 120 receptacles are wired between a phase lead and the neutral. No problem.
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1958 rambler super
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Hmmm, so if all the prongs of the adapter are EXACT matches for the female socket parts the adapter plugs into everything should be fine.
Correct?
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Yup. If you buy the adapter and still have doubts, plug a trouble light into the adapter and see what happens. It should work just fine. Caveat, of course this assumes that if you do have the correct receptacle, that it is wired up correctly. But the trouble light test should determine that also. Just a comment on welders. I had the first 110 volt MIG Hobart ever build, the 'suitcase' MIG. Since then I've gone through two other Hobarts until I bought a Miller with Auto-Set. This thing makes me look like I know what I'm doing. I've tried the Lincoln's but this Miller is the cat's pajamas.
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maximus7001
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I was not referring to using a proper adapter. The proper adapter trader posted splits the voltage in half like regular house wireing does. We dont really have 110/120v here in north america. It is just 220/240v divided by 2 for household use. It comes into the building as 220/240v and is divided in the breaker box, or fuse box in a really old setup. What I was reffering to was if one was to just wire a dryer plug onto a 110/120v device then plug it into a 220/240v dryer the results would not be pretty.
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