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Help w/196 Rod, Rod cap, and piston Orientation |
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tomj
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A lot of mysteries in one miserable part.
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1960 Rambler Super two-door wagon, OHV auto
1961 Roadster American, 195.6 OHV, T5 http://www.ramblerLore.com |
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farna
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At least the mysteries don't prevent the part from working!
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Frank Swygert
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tomj
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Lol, indeed! Redundancy rules!
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1960 Rambler Super two-door wagon, OHV auto
1961 Roadster American, 195.6 OHV, T5 http://www.ramblerLore.com |
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1958 rambler super
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Hi tomj and farna, I posted a thread asking a kind person to explain how to oiling system works and how to replicate the system to my engine, the oil system currently on my engine, according to tomj, is nothing he's seen before, and he doesn't even know if it's a amc system. There's a big orange oil filter canister, and I geuss more piping to deliver the oil around the engine then what tomj described as the regular system, which is much more simple.
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Japa109
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Perhaps a series of picture of what you have would help folks understand. If you can not post pictures here or do not how to, perhaps you can post them on your facebook page or in the 58-63 American group on FB or somewhere else on line so we could look at what you have and help you out
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Japa 109
1963 American 2 dr wagon OHV-2V OD 1962 American 400 4 door OHV-2V Auto AC PS PDB |
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Japa109
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To all following this thread.
Thank you for your comments and your pieces of history. I think if I have pieced together the history of what I was working on. The block I inherited from the machine shop with the beehive crank was made in April of 1963. Can either Farna or Tomj tell me what is wrong with that statement? Its simple, if its a beehive crank then it can not be original to that a block made late in the 63 model year! So, my guess is the engine was built by an oldhead for a nash or an older 62 or earlier Rambler. I wound up leaving the .060 pistons and rods with the 63 machine shop engine block, changing to an auto crank, installing an erson ground cam, a new timing set, and a head milled .030. We ported an original exhaust manifold to the head and smoothed the pathways behind all valves and installed a WCD with an AMC 2bbl manifold. This engine is for the 62 classic wagon of the guy who is painting my blue 2 door wagon as a labor swap. In April, a friend gave me a running 196 with 61K miles on it with an auto crank and then another friend came to me on a budget wanting to build a 196 for a 46 Nash 600 as the flat head was so worn it could have been used as mosquito control. I wound up taking the beehive crank I had pulled from the machine shop engine and installing it in that engine with 61K miles on it. The engine took some serious cleaning as the wells surrounding the lifters were filled with sludge. While we were cleaning we did the timing set. We pulled the head and straightedged it to find all in good shape. We cleaned it up, lapped valves in by hand and rebuilt a 1909 to sit on top. I drove to Memphis to deliver him the engine on may 9 and it went in the car last weekend. He is 84 and wanted a nash he could rely on with a bit more power than the old flathead and he says he got what he wanted. So, from 3 engines I got for a total of $150 I was able to make two complete engines. Because the machine shop engine was rebuilt already I only needed to buy one set of rod, main, and cam bearings, two timing sets, and two gasket sets to make it all happen. I have just about finished up cleaning all the remaining parts I have here in the shop and it appears that I have remaining enough to build 2 more OHV and one flattie. As soon as we get the blue wagon on the rotisserie, I will begin another build. What I have learned came from Tom's pic out of the 65 manual which clearly shows the nub on the rod and not on the cap. And, from Frank, I learned the early rods had two holes which led me to rethink why I had a beehive crank in an April 63 engine: its obvious the crank and rods were from another engine. I gotta go see if I can geta project moving around here: sometimes you just reach those spots where everything seems stalled and I am at one of those spots now: I need a compressor for the shop as a logjam is forming, yet I cant seem to find a 5 horse 60 gallon single phase compressor up here. I am going to GA next week and have gone so far as to look at them on FB marketplace down there. |
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Japa 109
1963 American 2 dr wagon OHV-2V OD 1962 American 400 4 door OHV-2V Auto AC PS PDB |
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