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   If you use R-M, BEWARE - they have a change in their product and using the wrong "reducer" will screw you up SOOOO badly.......... and some of their counter idiots don't know that, or don't care.
R-M cost me dearly and I stay clear of them.

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billd Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Moderator Group Forum Administrator Joined: Jun/27/2007 Location: Iowa Status: Offline Points: 30894	Post Options Post Reply Quote billd Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: Mar/08/2008 at 12:45pm
	If you use R-M, BEWARE - they have a change in their product and using the wrong "reducer" will screw you up SOOOO badly.......... and some of their counter idiots don't know that, or don't care. R-M cost me dearly and I stay clear of them.
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tyrodtom Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List AMC Addicted Joined: Sep/14/2007 Location: Virginia Status: Offline Points: 6213	Post Options Post Reply Quote tyrodtom Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: Mar/08/2008 at 1:38pm
	I've been using RM daily for about 10 years now, it's not the all-time favorite paint i've ever used, but i've had no problems I could blame on the paint. I wouldn't call it the most painter friendly paint i've ever used, but if you pay attention to the reducers and additives it'll give excellant results, it's the most consistent matching paint i've ever used, enough varients to match about anything. THe main problem is deciding on the varient. billd I think I can remember the write up of your problem on the previous forum, I never could decide if you were ever given a straight answer to what really happened. Like i've said i've used the product for quite a while and have to keep up with anything new. There's been no change in their reducers i'm aware of. Edited by tyrodtom - Mar/08/2008 at 1:41pm
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FamlyTradition Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List AMC Nut Joined: Nov/24/2007 Location: Arkansas Status: Offline Points: 398	Post Options Post Reply Quote FamlyTradition Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: Mar/10/2008 at 1:28pm
	I used R-M in two different body shops with good results in both. You got to figure all paints are made on bodyshop use and freindlyness, not how well will this work in "Joe Smoe's "garage in the backyard with a fan in the window for airflow. A real painter can adjust the paint to match. He's got a wall of tinter's to do so. "Joe" has got the paint some kid mixed up that gets paid minimum wage. Do you think he care's if he goes over two grams on the silver tint. It's not alot, but enough to throw the colar off. A painter has cabnents with addatives for differant temps, humidity, ect. "joe", just the hardner and reducer the kid sold him. The painter has real hands on experiance and training. "joe" has the kid giving him advice that's never sprayed it or been sent to training to actuly learn it. Now I now there are exemptions. There are those who know and use the products they sell. But the madjority don't. Heck, they think a Rambler is a Ford or a dodge. The paint is not the bread and butter of autopart store. That's why not all auto part stores sell it. Why doesn't Walmart sell it? Hmmm. One last thought. Doesn't the can say for trainned professional use only? How many of you are that? How many people behind the counter are? I can proudly say I am PPG Certified Technicain in Bronze leval and Fleet R-M Factory Authorized Paint Technician NADC & Sherwin-Willams Training Program Sorry If I offened anyone, it just hit a nerve. There's a differance between sprayers & painters.
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billd Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Moderator Group Forum Administrator Joined: Jun/27/2007 Location: Iowa Status: Offline Points: 30894	Post Options Post Reply Quote billd Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: Mar/10/2008 at 1:38pm
	tom I saw the documentation. There was a change. The regional rep even admitted it. There was a change, the local dealer crossed off the new number (they were out) and wrote in the old number. The rep verified it was the wrong or old number. I saw the sheet. Another friend who worked on the car verified what he heard as far as the conversation too. the color was perfect, the finish was GREAT until the bad/wrong reducer took effect. It didn't come from a parts store.......... none of the parts stores here handle R-M. It was from an auto body supply house. I did visit the place later as I was curious. The fellow there when I was there did sort of have an "I don't give a $%@" attitude about things. Was much less than helpful.
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