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I have a drag 304 with aluminum rods. The guy I bought it from ran mud drag with a clutchflight trans. He left the line at 8800 and shifted at 8800. He ran it a couple seasons and quit racing.
Its fresh ready to go. 304 cast crank was in premium condition. Smile
I think with the Jerico in my Spirit I can get that 304 into the 10's in the 1/4. 
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AMC built 390`s & 401`s to go racing, with forged cranks, and stronger blocks, capable of 4 bolt mains.

The nodular cast crank in the 360 is very good but is not as strong.

If your racing 7000+ rpm use the steel crank, ideally in a 390 or 401, or like me stick it in a 360 and get a "pretend" 390.

As Trader said people misunderstand the limitations on the 360 and in fact most street use will be within the cranks capabilities.
The guy who put my 360 together was a Ford specialist and built custom engines for AC cars at Brooklands at the time, all of which had steel cranks rods etc. so never having done an AMC before he warned me that the cast rods "were like matchsticks" and the "pistons and crank are like glass"
So he left me terrified of over reving it. He did however concede that the AMC head was nearly as good as a 302 Ford, high praise from a Ford guy :-)



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Originally posted by Hurst390 Hurst390 wrote:

How many Rick Jones special stroker 360 cranks are out there and still running strong? Never heard of one breaking the crank. 
Whats the stroke Rick? 3.50? with a 2' steel 6 cyl chevy forged rod.
I have one of the cranks and wouldnt hesitate to build it for my dirt car or drag. 

3.53" stroke on a slightly widened 2" journal with a nice big radius.  
I have 6 or so out there getting pounded on.
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Yup, these are all your average build that any machine shop will do for your AMC.

Nickb546. the forged rods and pistons with you local machine shop prepped crankshaft are still a good plan, just keep it under 6500 RPM and it will last for years.

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Originally posted by Nickyb546 Nickyb546 wrote:

Hi guys I recently ordered a set of Wiesco pistons for a 390 rebuild it seems that the wrist pins are designed to be full floaters at a pin size of 1.000 I’m curious has anyone used these on a stock rod

Along these same lines, just curious what others have to say about press fit piston pins vs floating pins. Probably less money to press than install the floating pins but not sure which is the preferred method. Maybe the more experienced guys could give a little insight on the subject. 
Sure wish I had kept them all!
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Floaters are really nice when taking an engine apart. Would not machine factory forged rods for floating pins. Some have run steel on steel with no issues, but most of those people are tearing down their engines every few years.
You can reuse your factory forged rods for press fit and don't have to worry about them for street/occasional strip use.
If new rods are required, I'd buy floaters for the same money (don't know if you can buy press fit).
Your budget and purpose really kind of make this decision.
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