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Balancer+timing cover tighten seq not followed???

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guys!
Oh my gosh!......
Life is good! No worries !
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Quote The issue is that YOU presented that ONLY the service tool you have will satisfy YOU that the results are sufficient. And that nothing anyone else does as an alternative will suffice.

Never said that - I suggested that if nothing else, anyone who cares should at least use the balancer to line things up. It's not as easy but it works well and thousands of people have done that for decades. The tool is infinitely easier, but who working in a general shop has that for every make and size of engine? 
You missed where I said we had to use the balancer as we didn't have anything for Chevy, etc. I happen to have the tool for the alignment of the cover. But if I'm building a Ford 287, I'll use the balancer. If I'm working on a Chevy 350 or 400 - I'll use the balancer (or make a tool - I do that a whole lot, too)

I was also merely pointing out that the factory viewed the alignment of the cover as a very important thing - thus, the tool. If it wasn't important, they'd never mention any alignment. They'd say slap it on and tighten it up. 
They also point out alignment of the bell housing. I've seen the results of that not working out well - squealing pilot bushings. I guess some folks enjoy pulling the transmission multiple times. If it wasn't important, it wouldn't be mentioned in any book. (and I'd never have had to pull things apart to align things to get rid of a dragging input shaft on clutch release)

There's always alternatives to the "named tool" in a book - well, in most cases, sometimes there just isn't, especially in the last 20 years. Like retracting caliper pistons to install new brake pads. 

I saw it as you suggesting that alignment didn't matter, no reason to bother with certain things, and why should anyone care. 


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Ok, I don't meen to butt into the conversation, but I read what you said about the bellhouse being alinged, and I wonder if mine is, or was.
I also wonder if the pilot bushing is still where it was when I installed it or if it got pushed back into the recess of the crankshaft when the engine and trans finally mated.
How would I tell if the BH is not alinged anymore or if the pilot bushing has been disturbed from it's original position? I guess squeeling noises?
 (Ok tomj, I just checked evil Goole and it says squeeling noises either indicate worn pilot bushing or worn release bearing!)


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Originally posted by 1958 rambler super 1958 rambler super wrote:

guys!
Oh my gosh!......
Life is good! No worries !

No problem.  Ready to move on. Seems a misunderstanding of each other. One is paid to do well and strives to exceed at that. The other is an old geezer who sees his end of life on the horizon and makes judgement calls on when "good enough" is good enough.


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I'm also a old geezer, but I'm only 37
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote billd Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jul/01/2021 at 3:59pm
Originally posted by 1958 rambler super 1958 rambler super wrote:

I'm also a old geezer, but I'm only 37

Oh, heck, my oldest son had got you beat by a couple of years. (and he thinks he's old HAHAHAHAHA)


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