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Heavy 488
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That's a disc booster all right. Have 2 here that look just like. Dual diaphragm. Drum brake single diaphragm booster is much thinner.
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ramblinrev
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What you have is either a Matador/Ambo disc booster and AMX/Javelin master or vice versa. The Matador/Ambo booster appears identical to the AMX/Javelin one, but the bolt spacing is a bit wider, because the larger cars used a master with a larger piston (1 1/8? I'd have to look.) I can't imagine that the booster itself is calibrated much differently. But it was AMC's way of making sure that someone wouldn't put a smaller replacement master cylinder onto a power disc brake Matador or Ambo. I think you can widen your slots on your master and you'll be set. If you measure your studs (that the master bolts to) center to center on your booster, I can tell you for sure what you have.
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Calcommon
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Thanks ramblinrev, center to center on the booster bolts = 3.25" using a tape measure and a mark one eyeball, I might be off a couple hundredths. The master cylinders I have are closer to 3.4"
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ramblinrev
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The AMX/Javelin disc brake booster and master have about a 3 1/8" stud spacing. The Ambo/Matador ones with the larger bore master cylinder have about a 3 3/8" stud spacing. If the booster is from an AMX or Javelin, I wonder if you have the wrong master? (Or if suppliers are using the larger casting?) I still think you're ok with widening the slots. |
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74 Hornet Hatchback X twins (since 1977)
62 American Convertible (still worth the $50 I spent in 1973!) AMCRC #513, AMO #384 70 AMX 360 4-speed (since 1981) |
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tomj
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I too see no issue widening the holes. I think OP said they checked pushrod length, that's critical.
Having gone through a lot of OEM type master cyls looking for various fitments in weird (foolish) circumstances, it's surprising how small the variations are between very many of them. You'd think OEMs would have used a narrower range of a part with multiple close-tolerance machined surfaces (master cyl) and change things that vary with model and installation, so easily (brake lines, pushrod). The majority of AMC master cyls, and most of the Other Brands too, are 1" bore. They all have a similar stroke, fluid capacity, two-bolt flange, pushrod style, outlets one one side or the other, fore/aft ports, ... all slightly, annoyingly different. |
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hffej
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Went through this last year on my 69 Javelin. The new booster I installed had the slightly wider spacing which I found out was a booster for a Matador/Ambo. I slotted the master and set the pushrod length. Everything now works fine. Feels the same as my AMX. What ever the difference is with the booster, I can’t discern a difference with the brake performance.
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69 BBB AMX 69 BBO Javelin
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