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amxdreamer
AMC Addicted Joined: Jul/30/2008 Location: Vancouver, BC Status: Offline Points: 8511 |
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Thanks, the speaker turned out well, the attention to details was big in competition back then and I guess it stayed with me. My post above stated the same info about the head unit not working as hard and potentially not providing quite as much output. "Back in the day" it was the big calculations to figure out how many subs of 4,6,8 ohm (single and dual voicecoil) you can install (stereo and mono) before the amplifier was maxed out. I was always amazed at the IASCA Nationals when looking at the factory demo cars and counting how many 1000W amps and 15" subs they had! |
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Tony
Vancouver, BC 1970 AMX 1972 Badassador AMO#10333 |
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sandmountainjeep
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Great post George! Lots of good info on speakers and how they relate to old radios.
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scguy390
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I've been looking for a replacement speaker for my '71 Hornet and found one at S&M Electro-Tech. You may want to Google it.
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DoughertyAMX
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Where can you get the grill cloth like you used, and is that just adhesive backed foam you used on top of the speaker mount to go between it and the dash?
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tomj
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Though decidedly non-stock, when I installed a 1976 radio into my 1968 American (the P.O. had botched up the hole with pliers and a hacksaw; I made an 18 ga black 'trim plate' to cover the atrocity) the radio wanted 8 ohms, and with that old 2N176 transistor driving it, I did not want to harm it. 8-ohm 6x8's or 5x7's or whatever it was being expensive, and because Rambler Mentality, I made a little carrier that attached to the speaker mounts that accepted two surplus Boston Accoustics 2.5" midrange drivers ($2.00 each from AllElectronics; I have a dozen of them) wired in series. HYUGE magnets, 8 ohms, radio happy. And of course invisible so only Grandpa Nash up in Heaven knows that I cheated.
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1960 Rambler Super two-door wagon, OHV auto
1961 Roadster American, 195.6 OHV, T5 http://www.ramblerLore.com |
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amxdreamer
AMC Addicted Joined: Jul/30/2008 Location: Vancouver, BC Status: Offline Points: 8511 |
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Any custom stereo shop should have cloth, yes that's just adhesive foam to replicate the original setup.
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Tony
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S Curry
AMC Addicted Joined: Aug/16/2012 Location: Iowa Status: Offline Points: 598 |
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Tony, I used the dual voice coil speaker like you. I just have an AM radio and series the coils together to the speaker output from the radio. I can't remember, but I thought it was 16 ohms per coil, series together would get you 8 ohms. I believe that is what the AM radio amp was looking for was an 8 ohm load. I used a grille cloth also. Keeps the junk from falling into the speaker cone and making it buzz. Make it short. Sounds great.....
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george w
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If you connected the dual voice coils in series then the resistance (impedance) would be additive. If connected in parallel then the rating would be halved.
Most likely the voice coils of the dual voice coil speaker are rated 8 ohms. If so, then a series connection would yield a 16 ohm load to the radio which would result is the speaker receiving less power from the radio though this would cause no harm to the radio itself. ( The higher the resistance of the speaker the LESS of a load it presents to the radio's amplifier ). You may not have enough volume however. On the other hand if each voice coil of the dual voice coil speaker is rated at 4 ohms then connecting them in parallel would yield an effective load of 2 ohms and this could very well be a problem for the radio In this case you'd want to series connect the coils together. Connect one conductor of the speaker feed wire pair to the negative terminal of the first voice coil. Then jump the positive terminal of that coil over to the negative terminal of the second voice coil. Connect the positive terminal of the second coil to the remaining conductor of the radio's speaker feed wire. Assuming the car radio is a mono, single speaker feed, radio, then it doesn't matter which wire goes to the negative terminal and which goes to the positive terminal when you're series connecting the dual voice coils of a single speaker together. It is important however that the positive terminal of the first coil is connected to the negative terminal of the second coil. In a parallel connection negative terminals of both coils are jumped together and positive terminals are jumped together. When doing a stereo, or multi speaker system, then the polarity and connections must remain the uniform between all the speakers in the system. Edited by george w - Nov/25/2020 at 10:25am |
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Long time AMC fan. Ambassador 343, AMX 390, Hornet 360, Spirit 304 and Javelin 390. All but javelin bought new.
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S Curry
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Like I say. I have the speaker spec's buried somewhere. Dual coil. If I remember correctly the '70 AM radio was looking for an 8 ohm load. Yes, parallel and series multiple coils will give you different impedance. All my notes are buried in storage and my memory is.....I know that the radio prolly sounds better then when it left Kenosha in Feb of 70.
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dsm6678
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Just getting ready to put new speakers in my 73 javelin. I have the parts manual and it is showing different part number for the speakers between 1973 and 1974. I also have the 1973 manual for the amc radio system for multiplex radios and they are saying 4 ohm speakers for front and rear but like I said 1974 parts book is showing a different part number for the speakers.
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