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    Posted: Jun/10/2020 at 6:01pm
Good call on the expansion valve. I built a custom AC system for a VW and the expansion valve that I got from the company was sized too small for the system. It was a 1ton valve - I did the same thing where I trolled the Oreilly site until I found a 1.5 to. valve with the correct fittings and it all worked great. A lot of AC system companies sell the same valve for all systems and it’s good to check the size against system size - but also they’re super cheap which is nice :) I think mine was like $15. 

One other thing is there are metric fittings as well as AN fittings so sometimes you’ll have to mix and match with adapters or make sone adapter hoses.
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It is important that the thermal bulb of the expansion valve is attached firmly and directly to the outlet line of the evaporator then wrapped in insulation. Without this, the expansion valve will think the evaporator outlet is warm and the valve will open wider to admit more refrigerant. High side pressure will drop, low side pressure will rise, and the compressor will slug with liquid refrigerant. You will eventually blow the compressor.

R12 and R134a expansion valves have a slightly different superheat setting but only slightly and not enough to cause this.

There is also the question of system charge amount. Even with a wide open expansion valve, there should not be any bubbles in the sights glass while the compressor is running. Charge amount does not effect the cooling effectiveness of expansion valve type A/C systems. All they care about is that there is enough refrigerant to keep the pickup tube in the receiver/dryer submerged in liquid refrigerant. Adding refrigerant just raises the liquid level. Bubbles in the sight glass means the pickup tube is not submerged, so you add refrigerant until the bubbles disappear then add a little more to give it some reserve.
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I figured that was it. Glad you got it fixed and thanks for reporting back. Thumbs Up

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Finally got back to the shop with an expansion valve that fit. Evacuated the system, recharged, and it works great.  Thanks so much for helping me fix it!!!! Y’all are the best!!

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote 401MATCOUPE Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May/12/2020 at 11:21am
Originally posted by Mopar_guy Mopar_guy wrote:

Originally posted by 401MATCOUPE 401MATCOUPE wrote:

Did you change the expansion valve to something other then the original fittings?  I am not understanding the issue???

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Okay, is aftermarket changes, I can not help any further.....thank you.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Mopar_guy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May/12/2020 at 8:14am
Originally posted by 401MATCOUPE 401MATCOUPE wrote:

Did you change the expansion valve to something other then the original fittings?  I am not understanding the issue???

Back on page 2 "No OEM parts, everything is aftermarket. "

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Did you change the expansion valve to something other then the original fittings?  I am not understanding the issue???
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The evap is set up as 134. It is a cheap model and I may be paying for that now. I put the numbers that are on the valve into google and it only came back with a few results, all of them overseas, and only a couple in English
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Originally posted by george w george w wrote:

Using R-12 or R-134 and does it matter ? Shouldn't the usual AMC vendors have the proper valve ?


Well it could be defective, as it is a low cost item, that is a wee bugger to get to if all finished up. As for difference yes there is. But most are happy with original R12 valve. If your doing a whole new kit or upgrade, I suggest obtaining R134 valve if possible to swap out. It does make it cooler, as the system does not cycle as much.

It should cycle once every 2 minutes, but it depends on capacity and tempratures. Between once every minute or two is good. The less cycling the more efficient the system.
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