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Engine mount holes and T.C. holes don't line up?

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote 1958 rambler super Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jun/05/2021 at 10:37pm
Here is a pic of the problem!
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote farna Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jun/06/2021 at 2:23pm
Sent a private message, but will reiterate the contents here.

First, yes -- the "mounting plate" is the back part of the timing cover. The only purpose for that plate is to allow the engine to be bolted to the mounts. It might cover some holes in the block, but IIRC you could remove that plate and bolt the timing cover on and still run without leaking oil. Been a while since I had one apart, so I could be mistaken.

Note that the front crossmember has a "belly" to it -- a curve. If you bolt the mounts to the plate first the engine will drop further. That should make the bolt hole on the mount line up with the holes on the crossmember. At the factory the crossmembers were bolted to the engine then the engine and crossmembers lifted up into the car, so that wouldn't be an issue. Also, there is one tab that bolts to the front of the engine with a timing cover bolt that prevents the engine from sliding backwards off the front crossmember. That bolt can be removed then reinserted when the crossmember and mounts are in place. I'd bolt it all up loosely then tighten after all bolts are in place.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote nickleone Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jun/07/2021 at 11:50am
The plate against the block appears to be bent in your picture.  The bend is to the left of the mounting hole. Compare your picture to Toms at https://www.sr-ix.com/AMC/195.6ohv/BLOCK/index.html
Some metal work might move the mounting hole over ??
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote tomj Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jun/07/2021 at 11:44pm
The studs on the cushions are radially placed; so at a smaller radius, the distance between the tips of the studs is smaller than the distance between the holes (slot and hole).

I suggest unbolting at least one, or both, of the cushions from the front crossmember, and attach to the engine plate. Then set the engine down on the crossmember. I suspect they'll line up then. 

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I suspect likewise. I say that after myself many times missing the simplicity of the problem. And then you don't know to be over-joyed about the solution..., or kick yourself because you didn't see it earlier.
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Hi just chiming in here, On my front engine support there was several holes where i could mount the rubber cushions, have you checkedt to see if there is more ways to place those?
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And..., even if the holes still don't line up what keeps you form drilling new holes where you need them???
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Hi everybody, I had a suggestion from farna, and I followed it and it lead to being able to mount the engine to the cross member properly..... A big thanks to all your time and suggestions and also to farna!
Here's the pic.
But yes, I was going to drill new holes if I had to, but am very very glad I didn't have to!


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