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    Posted: Feb/22/2021 at 7:01pm
 i have no brakes and the brakes won't bleed.
no fluid coming out.  it's a 1963 rambler american 
straight 6 ohv. also i didn't try very hard but i could 
not get the front drums off any tricks ?

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Master cylinder not working possibly.  Loosen the brake line at the MC, pump brake pedal. Does it squirt brake fluid? If yes there is an obstruction in the brake lines most likely at the rubber hoses.
Stuck drum, try backing off the adjuster there could be a ridge in the drum holding it.  Apply lube and large hammer to break the RUST bond if the adjuster does not help.


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If its not a master cylinder failure its probably the rubber brake lines between the steel lines and the wheel cylinders.  They collapse (swell up inside and close off) with age.

Disconnect the rubber line on the wheel cylinder side.  Check to see if you can get fluid to flow.  Then disconnect the rubber line on the frame side and see if you can get fluid to flow.  Keep disconnecting back towards the master cylinder until you get flow to find the stoppage.

If the rubber lines are old (10 yrs maybe, 20 yrs definitely) you might go ahead and replace them anyway to be safe. 
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Woah... back waaaay up. 

Was this working before you started? What work did you do? 

Why are you bleeding it? What's the history of your car (I mean pertinent to the task at hand.)

What is it you are trying to do? 

It's best to give too much info than not enough.

DO you have a factory technical service manual for this car? (WYOU REALLY SHOULD! Not a "Haynes" or whatever, thsey are useless).

What's your skill level? Have you done brake work before? 

We're all perfectly happy helping out newbies or old hands. It just helps to know up front.



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 work was done by someone else at some point. just got car 
home  and trying to get it road worthy. used to do a lot of brakes
drum brakes as a kid. just haven't done any real brake work in a long time and the answers to the post are helpful to jog the memory.

thanks guys !!! 
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Front drums are swedged to the hub at the lug studs.   Remove the hub and drum by removing the bearing cap and nut.

I did a friends 1960 American.   It had been sitting over 10 years.  All of the wheel cylinders were frozen.   All of the brake shoes were good, so we replaced the 4 wheel cylinders.  Bleeding was a pain with the master cylinder on the frame (no gravity help).  Not sure yours is the same.  Keep working at it, eventually you'll get it done.

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