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68 Javelin Front Window Guide

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    Posted: May/08/2021 at 1:13pm
I am usually not such a patient person but i have worked over two hours at least in various attempts to get the front window guide properly positioned in the driver side door.  No matter what I do, when the hardware is tight enough with the window rolled up, the guide gets loose in the channel and drops out into the door just before the window is rolled all the way down.  This is a 68 Javelin, sept 67 built car with the big octagonal plate and wave washer as fasteners backed up by a 3/8 nut.  I have a 69 Javelin here at home that is untouched and has a flanged nut in placed of the hardware in the 68.  

I suspect that my guide channel is damaged or at least displaced at the bottom to cause the slack and will inspect the 69 a little further to see how the problem (if it exists in the 69) was dealt with by AMC.  If anyone has faced this issue and can offer some advice, please let me know.  Otherwise I will put the door panel back on and call it good but caution the owner as to why the window might feel a little loose when enroute up and down.    

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I am answering my own request again, but I have some information which some old timers know but which might be useful to newbies to the Javelin and AMX in the future.  The secret to that front window (front guide in that window) is having the correct hardware.  There is a large hexagonal or octagonal shaped plate which backs up the forked connection of the front window shoe.  There is also a wave washer which keeps pressure on the back of the fork in the shoe.  There is a large flange nut which fits over the fork and holds everything in place.  This is for a 68 Javelin or AMX.

I 1969 AMC saw the error of their ways and suspended the curved front guide assembly on springs which allow the window shoe to move as it needs to as the window is rolled down.  The front guide is fastened to the fork in the shoe with a flanged washer. Instead of movement being allowed by the hardware on the guide, the necessary in and out movement is allowed by the spring assembly.  

My problem was that I was missing the large flanged nut for the 68 window assembly.  But I had parted out two 68 Javelins in years past and when I searched I found the correct 1968 hardware.  


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Good info to know, 
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Any given mechanical job you decide to solve alone will imminently require a third hand, at its most critical moment

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