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    Posted: Aug/18/2010 at 6:43pm
Are the motor mounts for installing a 232 in a '64 American different from those for a 195.6 OHV?  If so, anyone know where I can get a pair?  Thx. Steve
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It's not just the mounts that are different. The crossmember is different also. You can use a crossmember and mounts from any 65 or newer 2wd small car (American, Hornet, Gremlin, Concord, Spirit) that came with a 199, 232, or 258.

Also, you'll need to use a short water pump (65 American or Jeep CJ-5 with and AMC inline six) and flip the brackets on the radiator to push it forward. In 1966, they lengthened the engine compartment a couple inches to make the engine a better fit. THe 196's are pretty short inline sixes.
 
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And you also need the skinny fan, with cutouts to clear the crank pulley bolt! Two bad AMC didn't make the 64-65 American engine bay for the 232 engine!
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What am I missing here? My 65 American came with a 232 ohv 6,and it fits OK.
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Originally posted by daydreamer1948 daydreamer1948 wrote:

What am I missing here? My 65 American came with a 232 ohv 6,and it fits OK.
Sure it's OK.  It's just that AMC made that engine fit in your car.  You have the short shaft water pump, and the correct engine crossmember.   In 1966 the lengthened the car by six inches ahead of the cowl and you could get air conditioning in an American with a 232 (or 199 for that matter, I think).  Joe
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Originally posted by daydreamer1948 daydreamer1948 wrote:

What am I missing here? My 65 American came with a 232 ohv 6,and it fits OK.
Yes, your '65 came with the 232, but '64 american's didnt.  the '64 classic was the car the 232 debuted in.................
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Originally posted by daydreamer1948 daydreamer1948 wrote:

What am I missing here? My 65 American came with a 232 ohv 6,and it fits OK.
 
If you look carefully, you'll see that it's a very tight fit!
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This is all good info,as I am planning an engine swap soon. Gonna put a 95 4.0 and a 5 speed from a 95 Cherokee in my 65 American. So I guess I'll need my waterpump,and fan from my old motor. any other problems I might find? By the way my car has A/C. I don't think it is factory,but it is a Rambler A/C unit.
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  The radiator core support was changed on the 1965 Americans so the 232 could be used.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote counsel62 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Aug/19/2010 at 10:09am
O K - so now the important questions are:  anyone out there have a '65+ Crossmember for an American with a 232? How about the motor mounts too?  Functioning short water pump (I'm presuming that a 196 pump won't fit a 232 - correct)? counsel62@hotmail.com
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