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farna 
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 Posted: Oct/18/2021 at 6:11am |
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If they had intended to restore or keep the car I'm sure they would have done more. Sounds like the only reason they took the 2-3 days to get it running was for the video itself. The vehicles they have listed on the sale site are reasonably priced for what they are, IMHO. I've seen the milk/panel vans go for much more in worse shape! That Rambler COULD be restored -- running in this case just means you should have a good core to rebuild though (assuming the head isn't cracked). Lots of work with little added value, but might make it easier to sell. More than likely it's a parts car though, or a rat rod candidate.
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tomj
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Posted: Oct/18/2021 at 11:48am |
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Good point. It is "marketing" for a car that might have silently rotted away.
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1960 Rambler Super two-door wagon, OHV auto
1961 Roadster American, 195.6 OHV, T5 http://www.ramblerLore.com |
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nickleone
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Posted: Dec/19/2021 at 11:05pm |
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401 71 Gremlin pro rally car sold 390 V8 SX/4 pro rally car sold 1962 Classic SW T5 4 wheel disc brakes |
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farna
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Posted: Dec/20/2021 at 6:19am |
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ONLY $2500!!! The car actually is pretty rust free and solid though. If you really want a little four door American it wouldn't be that bad a deal, but I think it's about $1000 over priced.
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wittsend
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Posted: Dec/20/2021 at 11:20am |
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I just chuckle when I see ads like this that state things like, "Needs carb adjusted." I mean whether it is the choke, mixture or idle speed adjustment three minutes would be a long time to make all three of those adjustments. So, why don't THEY make them???
To me those are just excuses for far greater reasons that the engine doesn't run well but covers their butt in a round about way of saying "I told you the engine didn't run well." To me when I consider any of these older cars there are only two things that are relevant. How bad is the rust and can does the car have a title. Everything else I suspect might need repair or replacement. And at least here in California a valid title can have secondary issues. Cars that are not put on "Non-Op" status are subject to three years back registration plus fines and fees. Thus even with a valid title in hand there could be sticker shock at the DMV when you find that there are $600+ in back fees due. The attitude of the state is that if you didn't deliberately Non-Op the car then you are deemed guilty with no chance of proven innocent that you drove the car on the public roadway even if you could drag 100 people into court stating the car sat in your driveway for those three years.
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farna
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Posted: Dec/21/2021 at 6:56am |
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Probably really means IT NEEDS A NEW CARB. Old one probably worn out. Like you, I think it would be cheap and easy to kit and adjust the carb. They spent so much time on clean-up and getting it running that another couple hours and under $40 won't hurt to get it running much better! The CA thing where you have to pay back taxes and fees is crazy. Obviously a way to keep people from resurrecting older cars that pollute more.
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Posted: Dec/21/2021 at 1:56pm |
The main driving force was that people would just not register their cars and take their chances at not getting caught. Often they would steal the yearly marked tags that come with the registration. Most cop wouldn't look that deep (correct year tag number) when they pulled someone over. A number of years ago my neighbor bought a brand new truck in Arizona (cheaper there) and registered it in Minnesota where he spent his summers and was planning in retiring in a year. Well, he got caught with those plate reader cameras and was tracked down. He was unwilling to pay the $900+ registration fee on the new truck (none of that was sales tax) so he parked his brand new truck for six months and trailered it to Minnesota in the summer. As things currently stand the absolute lowest yearly registration fee in California is $130. A "Fix It" ticket comes with a $25 "administrative fee." I got one for a burnt out headlight that I didn't notice because I turned the lights on in a lit parking garage. I was notified the cop wrote the ticket up under the wrong code. BTW, the cops have A WHOLE YEAR to correct an improperly written ticket. So, I sat nervously waiting with my ticket that said I had "30 days to pay or fight in court." Anyway, it took three trips to the police station and three trips to the court house to resolve. And to think we tolerate all this because of the weather.
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MIPS
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Posted: Dec/23/2021 at 7:50pm |
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I've always been on the fence on these kinds of videos. I don't know if its something that got suggested to me more and more as I worked on the Eagle more or if its something that especially picked up in the last three or four years.
Gonna come out right now that I don't endorse things like Junkyard Digs where he took a $50 Eagle, threw the parts cannon at it and then sent it to the Jeep park until it fried the transmission and later threw a rod, OR the more recent guy who bought a dump of a Pinto, drove it between states, had it break down enough times it had a Vehicle Abandonment tag stuck to the windshield and ultimately drove it home, again with said tag still stuck on his windshield. On one hand I've seen some fun challenges where you had two teams take two cars out of the weeds and accomplish something simple like puttering around the yard in a race after a few weeks of work to make it idle and roll on its own. ColdWarMotor's Straight-8 Showdown is one of my favorites even though it isn't a complete or even half restoration. The cars were pretty much impractical to restore and even after the challenge the owner said even with both engines unseized and running he's still not selling them because they both need far too much work done to be worth more than parts. On the other hand there's a LOT of these style videos. "ABANDONED" "NEGLECTED" "FORGOTTEN" "LEFT FOR YEARS" and "WILL IT RUN" with the clickbaity thumbnails. Usually the formula is the same: 1 -Ads. 2 -Finding the car in some place you wonder how they found it because you won't see it on Craigslist or Bring a Trailer 3 -Not disclosing or briefly touching on the cost they paid for the car 4a -IF it's seized or you can't get it registered, drag it onto a trailer and continue the video from home 4b -IF it starts, launch the budget parts cannon at it and then drive it a comical distance with temporary papers. Usually at least 400 miles and breaking down at least twice because the utter lack of a pre-departure inspection on a car that's been a mouse house since the 80's is "if it holds all the fluids and good tires/brakes, we're good!" 5 -Proceed with the tune-up and a tidy (optionally the repair if it was seized) 6 -The show-off part (taking it to a show, racing it, driving it around town on a saturday night) 7 -Sell it before it becomes a financial liability Like, if you are going to sell the car again, why incriminate just how little maintenance and how much abuse you gave it under your brief ownership? I'm assuming the gist of the videos are cash in on those sweet, sweet clicks and viewer ad revenue and if you get to fleece someone into the car after for a few grand it's all bonus. Edited by MIPS - Dec/23/2021 at 7:57pm |
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farna
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Posted: Dec/24/2021 at 9:23am |
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That's pretty much my take on the things too! On the plus side, if you watch the video you have a fair idea of what they did to it and what you're actually getting, so you can use that for price negotiations. Most of those people really have no idea what the market for the particular cars are. They just think "gee, I've never seen one of these, must be rare and therefore valuable". DESIRABILITY/POPULARITY drives prices, not RARITY. If you have the only one left and no one wants it/cares, what's it worth? Not much... if you could even sell it...
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Posted: Dec/24/2021 at 11:11am |
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The car sold for $1500. Just saw it on Facebook Marketplace.
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