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FYI the forum administrators and moderators have been actively looking into and discussing adding a section for projects like non AMC engine swaps etc.   No final decision has been made ......

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You expected more supportive responces?
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We the members are quite harsh. Please do not take it personal. We are as mentioned looking at a separate section to assist those who want to keep your vehicle moving down the road.

I do find it interesting that some of the vocal response is only on engine replacement?

For consideration the question is why not the same responses for installing 5 speeds, Ford 9" rears, alum radiators, GM calipers. Can anyone hear the crickets chirp?
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Think about it for a minute.

How many Chevy forums have people asking about putting a Hemi, for example, in a Corvette?

Same difference, if you ask me.  And the folks on the Chevy forum would likely be even LESS welcoming to such a "sacreligious" idea than the folks here are to a similar idea.

Don't get me wrong.  I have a '52 International truck, and I'm planning to put a Pacer front suspension and an AMC V8 in it.  I'm NOT against building a rod, or against using what you have. But I don't go to the International forums and ask THEM how to do it.

WHY?

Because I know to EXPECT similar responses, or worse.

The problem isn't about WHAT you're asking; the problem is, you're asking the wrong people.  Kinda like walking into the Republican National Committee office and announcing you want to start a "draft Hillary Clinton for President" movement.  What you propose to do is against what the people here generally do, and most have no idea exactly what parts, or what measurements, are needed to put a Chevy V8 in an AMC...or a Hemi in a Corvette, for that matter.

I wish you luck, and I hope you get the results you're looking for, because it's always nice to see another AMC on the streets.  BUT I think you came here and asked the Republicans about how to get a Democrat elected, to use an analogy...and the folks here generally either don't know specifics or or don't want to do it, for whatever reasons.

And that's completely understandable.  And I'm not trying to be rude here, I'm just trying to explain why you got the responses you did.
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Originally posted by gtoman_us gtoman_us wrote:

We the members are quite harsh. Please do not take it personal. We are as mentioned looking at a separate section to assist those who want to keep your vehicle moving down the road.

I do find it interesting that some of the vocal response is only on engine replacement?

For consideration the question is why not the same responses for installing 5 speeds, Ford 9" rears, alum radiators, GM calipers. Can anyone hear the crickets chirp?


Okay, I'll bite.  A five speed is an UPGRADE.  A Ford 9" is an UPGRADE.  An aluminum radiator is an UPGRADE.  GM brake calipers are an UPGRADE.  I fail to see how a SBC over an AMC is an UPGRADE. 

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Try finding local parts for a 327 like a water pump. 350 sbc any retail parts store. So increasing reliability would be considered an upgrade. Therefore..
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Originally posted by 6PakBee 6PakBee wrote:


Originally posted by gtoman_us gtoman_us wrote:

We the members are quite harsh. Please do not take it personal. We are as mentioned looking at a separate section to assist those who want to keep your vehicle moving down the road.

I do find it interesting that some of the vocal response is only on engine replacement?

For consideration the question is why not the same responses for installing 5 speeds, Ford 9" rears, alum radiators, GM calipers. Can anyone hear the crickets chirp?


Okay, I'll bite.  A five speed is an UPGRADE.  A Ford 9" is an UPGRADE.  An aluminum radiator is an UPGRADE.  GM brake calipers are an UPGRADE.  I fail to see how a SBC over an AMC is an UPGRADE. 

Can you still hear the crickets?
I have owned a 70 AMX since new. I have owned 5 old LT-1 C3 Corvettes. I consider the LT-1 engine a definite upgrade, but I personally wouldn't put one in my AMX. I would just buy the Vette, and have both.
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Originally posted by gtoman_us gtoman_us wrote:



I do find it interesting that some of the vocal response is only on engine replacement?

For consideration the question is why not the same responses for installing 5 speeds, Ford 9" rears, alum radiators, GM calipers. Can anyone hear the crickets chirp?

That's easy,

the engine is one of the things that sets the personality of the build. 

It wouldn't be that much different than if someone posted about swapping a 69' Camaro hood and fenders onto a 69' Javelin.

Or putting a GTO dashboard into an AMX. 

Swap the brakes (AMC stuff is tougher to find & expensive), or transmissions & axles if you must,

but atleast put in something in that's a practical improvement.

You'd hear objections if someone swapped out a Model 20 rear to put in a (weaker) 10 Bolt Chevy,

but not as many would object when the swap is to something as good as the AMC part, with better availability,

like an 8.8", or an 8.75".

  Just like I can't see removing a 904 trans for a TH350,

but could see swapping in a 200-4r or a 700r4

or pulling out a 4speed for a 5speed.


But even trans/axle & brake swaps are more easy to reverse later than an engine swap.

Most SBC swaps seem to be more about the owner being afraid of using 'something different'

than about what the project actually needs.

I cringe just as much when I hear a SBC starting up under the hood of an otherwise perfect 1950's Ford F100 as I would when its in an AMC.

Another example would be;

I love the Dodge Flat Head six in my old M37,

it IS the personality of that truck.

 I wouldn't swap that out for a SBC, SBChrysler, AMC, or anything else.

It makes that truck what it is Smile 

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This is my out look I'm Car Guy, I like cars all different Styles, Years, Makes, Models and granted there are some that aren't my "cup of tea" but i have a mutual respect for any one willing to love their car, and put forth the time effort , and or money to have their dream ride. So screw everyone and do what you want and if someone doesn't like it then tell them to suck it or ask them if they wanna buy it so they can build it the "proper" way
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Originally posted by Rampar Rampar wrote:

This is my out look I'm Car Guy, I like cars all different Styles, Years, Makes, Models and granted there are some that aren't my "cup of tea" but i have a mutual respect for any one willing to love their car, and put forth the time effort , and or money to have their dream ride. So screw everyone and do what you want and if someone doesn't like it then tell them to suck it or ask them if they wanna buy it so they can build it the "proper" way
I agree. My feeling is that the person who pays for the car, owns it. He can do whatever he wants with it. Usually, they aren't putting a non AMC engine in the valuable performance cars anyway. Most of the cars they modify have very little value in the first place.
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