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While in high school and with a few kids drinking in the 58 Ford Y block, I got away from a cop who later said he would have had me If he knew the roads as well as me. I knew I needed more power and bought a manifold and Holley 4V for $20 from a friend. The manifold had a broken lug that I brazed up in shop as described, grinding the V's, preheating it with the rosebud, and eventually getting the brazing to stick. That said, the only value for that block that I can see is as a practice piece or learning tool for kids and maybe a conversation piece if it ever gets to run again. How about three different types of repairs all in a row?  
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Hey guys thanks for the info. We weren't planning to actually go throught the process of welding it back up. Like i said in my initial post these motors are a dime a dozen. And i was just wondering if it could be done and how one would go about it. I figured it was not an easy process. If it was poeple wouldn't concider a cracked block or head a deathe sentence.

It does sadden me to hear of people just throwing them away. Eventually they are going to get rare. 304s are kind of the same way. I just wish people around me were giving them and the sixes away. I'd scarf them up in a heart beat. They have plenty of power for what i need.

So any one in Missouri or Illinois area want to shed some steel?
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Anything can be fixed. It just comes down to how much time and money do you want to spend to do it.


I've thrown away some brand X sixes. I tried to even give them away. I needed room for other stuff, so they had to go somewhere. It sucks, someone would need them someday, but I wasn't storing them for 40 years waiting for that day to arrive.

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yeah, worth storing. Worth welding. Worth time and money, as seen in the for sale section.
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If I'm not mistaken, you could MIG it, and would have to use a hammer to tap on the new weld to as you go to displace the nickle????  I need to see if I can find that info again.
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I've mig welded some ornamental cast iron pieces, and it worked . But when I tried mig welding a cast iron stove grate it didn't work for long.

Heated it up with a rosebud torch, welded it, then reheated with the rosebud and gradually reduced heat. It appeared good, but it broke again after a few fires. I don't know what I did wrong.

It's hard to get old cast iron that's been in service long really clean enough to get a weld without so many impurities it's worthless.

Then sometimes you're welding cast steel that you may think is cast iron.

I eventually torch welded that grate using old piston rings as rods, it lasted.

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I have a complete 199 six.oil pan to carb for $100.00.

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As far as the cracked block, I saw one correct answer in this post. JB Weld it and you will not have an issue.

I am looking for a 304 for my Concord project. Must be 72 & newer.

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Originally posted by raser13 raser13 wrote:

Hey guys thanks for the info. We weren't planning to actually go throught the process of welding it back up. Like i said in my initial post these motors are a dime a dozen. And i was just wondering if it could be done and how one would go about it. I figured it was not an easy process. If it was poeple wouldn't concider a cracked block or head a deathe sentence.

It does sadden me to hear of people just throwing them away. Eventually they are going to get rare. 304s are kind of the same way. I just wish people around me were giving them and the sixes away. I'd scarf them up in a heart beat. They have plenty of power for what i need.

So any one in Missouri or Illinois area want to shed some steel?
Ive thrown 304s away.  I sold the one it was a running 304, sold it for $100.  didnt want it.  have a parts car with a running 304, and another 304 on a engine stand. and then a 304 in my shed.
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I'd be glad to grab a 304.  Just need to find one in my area.
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Originally posted by purple72Gremlin purple72Gremlin wrote:



Ive thrown 304s away.  I sold the one it was a running 304, sold it for $100.  didnt want it.  have a parts car with a running 304, and another 304 on a engine stand. and then a 304 in my shed.


I need a complete 304. Sell me one. Where at in IL?

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