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6768rogues
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I agree with the comments that said the proper way to weld cast iron is to heat it in an oven, weld it, and then put it back in the oven for a controlled cool down. That said, I am aware of tractor engines that cracked and all that was done is to clean the surface and arc weld it. That is not the textbook procedure, but I have seen it work more than once. It is worth a try if you are going to otherwise throw away the block. What is the downside risk, trashing it anyway?
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Photon440
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If you're not familiar with the 'row of threaded plugs' repair, this is what it's all about:
http://www.r-f.com/lock_n_stitch_repair.asp |
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SC397
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Here is one for sale cheap. It might be worth the cost to have it shipped.
http://rebsamcandjeep.proboards.com/thread/395/amc-199-trans?page=1&scrollTo=4786 |
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mixed up
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there is a 68 american is a pick and pull in south east mich has the motor and tran still in it they are very good on prices migh be worth a road trip .open 7 days
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jpnjim
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Wow Thanks for posting that!
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Hurst390
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if its cracked like that on the outside. rest assured its probably cracked on the inside too. I saw a guy weld a block last year on a dirt car that sat outside..it lasted about 3 laps
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6PakBee
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Somebody's going to start laughing but I saw this done to a 2nd generation Mopar Hemi that threw a rod and took out a chunk of the pan rail. The owner cut a repair piece out of a RB block and fitted the chunk into the hole. V'd out the gap on both sides, preheated the area with a rosebud and then brazed the chunk in with brass brazing rod on both sides. Worked. I wonder if something like that would work here?
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Roger Gazur
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nda racer
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My question would be, how much would the repair cost?
and before that's started, the engine needs to be torn completely down and inspected for internal damage. Having $1000s wrapped up into a $100 engine that most people end up throwing away, cause they can't give them away, in the first place isn't a very good idea. But it isn't my money. |
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junk yard dog
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I have three 427 ford engine blocks two built now one 447 cu in stroker that was a perfect bock and the one i am building now that was cast welded on the deck only from rot by the water outlets on the head matting surface. The third block i have had a wrist pin let loose and took a chunk out between the cross bolt mains and someone bolted it and braised it in place when i got it. I took it to JB welding in trout dale oregon and he cut it back out and cast welded it and you couldn't see were he welded it but because he didn't weld were the pan mounts you can see that but won't be noticed when pan is installed. Jim was very talented by since then has passed away. He charged $500.00 like 10 years ago. It is standard bore and will need one sleeve and bored .017 over but it is hard to find undamaged 427 ford block and standard even harder to find. If you want to be in that block a bunch of money then do the same but i bet you could find a block for $100.00 or less. I threw one away last year because no one wanted it. Face it they are common and should be lazy to find and as someone said if its cracked like that on the outside i bet there is additional damage inside. Dog.
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Hurst390
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I welded my cast iron heads a month or so ago when I put a hole in them porting..tig'd with silicone bronze rod and it welded up nice. But i'll say it again, its not fixing it that's the issue.If its cracked that bad on the outside what's the inside look like?
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