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304-dude
AMC Addicted Joined: Sep/29/2008 Location: Central Illinoi Status: Offline Points: 9082 |
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AMCenthusiast, yes you sound a bit harsh, but facts are, that one must understand proper cooling of the valve train. No matter how good your springs are, heat from friction and heat transfer from the valves can make them weak sooner than later.
Now for the performance guys pushing the limits on the track, we are talking short runs, so IMO heat may not play into the equation, as in dirt track or autocross. Even with street driven cars, that see above 4k RPM in rare occasions. Now I did notice the same with my OEM valve covers, as for how oil is distributed by splash from the covers curved top. I had plans long ago to go with a girdle and had Offy tall ribbed covers set aside. Once I realized the OEM covers fit well enough with quality springs, retainers, and studs, and I was not going all out in RPM use constantly... and keeping lift and valve stem height in check, I sold my Offy covers without any second thoughts. Now which looks better on a built engine... obviously the taller ones. In some ways making a point about something that may not even be an issue, even if it is in design, can be taken as a wee bit of disregarded info to be noted with respect. |
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71 Javelin SST body
390 69 crank, 70 block & heads NASCAR SB2 rods & pistons 78 Jeep TH400 w/ 2.76 Low 50/50 Ford-AMC Suspension 79 F150 rear & 8.8 axles Ford Racing 3.25 gears & 9" /w Detroit locker |
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mopar440cu
AMC Nut Joined: Mar/29/2016 Location: Florida Status: Offline Points: 261 |
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This is America. What you believe is not the problem... What you believe I SHOULD BELIEVE is the problem!
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74Bubblefender
AMC Addicted Charter Member Joined: Jun/29/2007 Location: The AMC form Status: Offline Points: 2589 |
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Fwew!
Edited by 74Bubblefender - Oct/24/2016 at 6:43pm |
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We are just about to forge new AMC V8 crankshafts.. please check here
http://www.bulltear.com/forums/showthread.php?19564 |
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74hornet
AMC Apprentice Joined: Mar/16/2010 Location: canada Status: Offline Points: 60 |
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they are the fittings and lines for nitrous,i went with black look now when i changed the nitrous for a bigger system,the 175hp too small for the new motor |
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74hornet
AMC Apprentice Joined: Mar/16/2010 Location: canada Status: Offline Points: 60 |
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[QUOTE=amcenthusiast](that appears to be a nitrous solenoid on '74Hornet's engine?)
in my case i had the edelbrock cast on the engine before but the new valve train with 1.7 rockers hit on the ends and hit with metal ones too.i tryed the sce thicker very costly gaskets and they delaminated and started an oil fire |
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amcenthusiast
AMC Addicted Joined: Jul/02/2012 Location: SW Atlanta GA Status: Offline Points: 1778 |
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hee hee gotcha goin'!
but hopefully I gotcha thinkin too... |
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mopar440cu
AMC Nut Joined: Mar/29/2016 Location: Florida Status: Offline Points: 261 |
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Nice!!
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This is America. What you believe is not the problem... What you believe I SHOULD BELIEVE is the problem!
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mopar440cu
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In a friendly note, I was just looking for a better upgrade from the stock bent up valve covers I have. The previous owner tightened the dang things too much. lol As for adding more power to my newest 360 Jeep project I think I'm right where I want to be, hp wise. I understand what you are trying to say by spending more money on your engine components rather than worrying about the valve cover looks but, I assure you this is not the case. I just want a better looking, longer lasting valve cover that does the same job. For me AMC is a whole new animal to work on than Chevy, Ford and Chrysler, which I am use to but, love learning about it.
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This is America. What you believe is not the problem... What you believe I SHOULD BELIEVE is the problem!
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amcenthusiast
AMC Addicted Joined: Jul/02/2012 Location: SW Atlanta GA Status: Offline Points: 1778 |
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humorous that my extra long comment got quoted again or I would have deleted it now that Bubblefender edited his post (thanks and oops again!)
not to spotlight or call anyone stupid, I wanted to be polite and give my example of a 7000 rpm nodular iron bottom end AMV8 > to say 'yes, it can be done' -and give a nod to AM's book Performance American Style because to me, I associate the tall valve cover look with a high rpm valvetrain, but my engine build with 6800 max rpm cam and kit (all the parts recommended by Erson) did not need the tall covers and I'm willing to sacrifice some of my personal reputation with a long reply like that just so other AMCers know that the stock AMV8 valve covers are better than most other designs because the curved top definitely deflects oil back down onto the valve springs (not just for lube, but for using the oil as a coolant) AM's Performance American Style sort of dodges the lack of 7000+ rpm high rpm potential of the nodular iron bottom end AMV8 by saying all AMV8s built for a higher level of performance should be internal balanced and consider getting a Moldex billet crank (even for the forged steel bottom end AMV8s) so I think a nodular iron bottom end AM 304 can be built into a semi-serious performance engine but I don't think the original poster will need tall valve covers -assuming he's not going to use a billet crank and custom rods because he's going a low buck route possibly using the drilled head bolt 290 Typhoon 10 to 1 heads to get a tad more compression the same money (mis-spent?) could go into buying mallory metal to have the crank internal balanced instead Edited by amcenthusiast - Oct/25/2016 at 8:50am |
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74Bubblefender
AMC Addicted Charter Member Joined: Jun/29/2007 Location: The AMC form Status: Offline Points: 2589 |
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Don't get too hung up on the radius of the valve covers. The springs will be bathing in oil and foamy oil. The angle of the casting on the top of the head allows a tremendous amount of oil to pool and the drain back holes on the top allow it to sit there and slowly recirculate. This is one of the reasons AMC springs and valves last so long.
Oil will find its way to the edge of the valve cover and in the spring area without a big swooping radius underneath the valve cover because it is pushed at an angle past the pushrod holes where it might drain. If you want to say advantage you could also say disadvantage with a velocity change in the oil. Will dispersion follow a common spread path? Only to a point at which velocity widens the spread or the path is impeded by an abrupt change in flow from hitting the valve cover and the spread changes from impact speed. Its a cool concept the radius helping the oil flow as it spurts out. Can you discount it...I don't think so...can you give it great credence? ...I don't know but I have my doubts.
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We are just about to forge new AMC V8 crankshafts.. please check here
http://www.bulltear.com/forums/showthread.php?19564 |
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