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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Johnvelin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Oct/20/2018 at 1:26pm
Do you have the trans adapter parts available fot sale?
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Could you be  more specific about which trans adapter you're looking for?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote redrebel Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Oct/20/2018 at 3:27pm
I have a couple new sets (crank adapter and block spacer0
200 shipped lower 48

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote one bad rambler Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Oct/24/2018 at 9:17pm
On my son`s 70 360 i went with a later crank during the rebuild
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Need some help here on all the variables discussed, some nearly 10 years old.
I have a built 2004r trans (with converter) I want to.put behind a 390 (early crank).  What exactly do I need to make this combo work? And who has the adapters and flexplate I need? Thanks for any help!
1968 Javelin 360 727 B/W/R
1970 AMX 390 4spd Bayshore Blue
1971 Jav/AMX 401 4spd B6
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I'd guess you want the Bolt-In Adapter, oldamcer on here from OH I think has one to sell.  But then you will also need the "Tolerance Ring" also that reduced the ID of the above adapter from TF727 Pilot Hole Size down to TH400 Pilot Hole Size, and NOVAK used to sell that "Tolerance Ring" but iirc it was a little pricey.  It has a "J" Jeep part number.
Members may be tired of hearing me type this, and I have not done it,
May be possible to have a competent person / shop modify / machine your GM Converter
to change the Converter Pilot to the Borg Warner Auto Converter Pilot size and shape.  It is the Converter Pilot size and shape that creates the fitment problem.  Then a 1970 390 Borg Warner Flexplate may be able to be drilled to fit the GM Trans Converter Mounting Bolts / Nuts.  Just a theoretical idea, but maybe worth looking into.

This is a picture of the Bolt-In Adapter, it moves the trans back by maybe 1/2" due to the block to trans spacer piece that is required because of the bolt-in crank flange piece.  Will also need longer Trans to Block Bolts, not sure what they do about the Trans Locating dowels though ?  and also longer Flesplate to Crank Mounting Bolts...
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What exactly holds this crankshaft adapter/spacer concentric with the crank ? Just the slop of the bolt holes and bolts ? I can't see the back side of it but I gather that there is no pilot on the adapter going into the crankshaft  pilot hole ? If it is not inline perfectly it might cause all kinds of problems. tranmission front seal and bushing is the first to come to mind.

To do it right use the print from Performance AM style and have the crank in a lathe.......IMO.


Originally posted by 390spirit 390spirit wrote:

Originally posted by amx39068 amx39068 wrote:

I believe APPs bolt on is only for 727 adaptions to the early crank.  I have a couple of them that I am not using if anyone needs one.

FYI Dan, APP's adapter will work for BOTH the 727 and TH400
 
the only difference is the converter snout on the 400 is a tad bit smaller requiring the thin spacer in the end of the crank.
here is the kit
 
 
 
and here is the crank adapter with the spacer for the 400 in it
 


Edited by DragRacingSpirit - Sep/20/2019 at 10:23am
Best 1/4 mile 8.99, 1/8 mile 5.71, 60 foot 1.27, no power adders
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Agree with DragRacingSpirit
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Did it backwards.  Engine is rebuilt and together!
1968 Javelin 360 727 B/W/R
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote DragRacingSpirit Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Sep/21/2019 at 8:25pm
Unfortunately.......I am saying this from experience. I did this adapter many years ago and it didn't work out so well. With that style of adapter it didn't last 50 miles. The transmission front seal(converter snout seal) started leaking like a sieve and the bushing in the front pump of the transmission was wore bad even though it was new.

I was young, dumb and didn't know any better at the time. This style adapter is just not serviceable......imo. Put your crank in a lathe, machine the hole for a sleeve of the correct inside/outside diameter of a 72 and up crank, weld it in place and you have a 72 up crank that will serve you well.
Best 1/4 mile 8.99, 1/8 mile 5.71, 60 foot 1.27, no power adders
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