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    Posted: Aug/12/2017 at 7:02pm
I have a 61 Rambler Classic Custom with a 196 engine with the push button selector. How do I ID what transmission I have. Is it just the Flash-O-Matic or are there different types?
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It is a BorgWarner M35 also called a T35.  That same transmission was used for column shift and push button shift AMCs behind the 195.6 engines (and others) for years.  I recommend that you get a service manual for your car.  There is plenty of information about all the systems in the manual.  Joe
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Look at the main case. If it is Aluminum T35 , if it's cast irom it should be a M-10.
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Thanks for the info! I saw some posts in this forum to use Dexon III or A fluid. Then I read to use ATF+4? 
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Dexron III is fine for it.  Joe
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A '61 is going to have the M-10, cast iron case.
The T-35 didn't show up until '62. 
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I did not know that.  Obviously I thought the cast iron case went away before 1961.    Joe
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Cast iron would be M8, as the M10 was not till 65-66(and only used with the V-8 engines). Aluminum would be the M35. Easiest way to ID without even crawling under it is to see if you have cooling lines going to the radiator, the M35 is only air cooled.
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The "M-10" (I don't think that is actually on the trans ID tag) uses a TV cable for internal pressure control instead of a vacuum modulator (so does the M-35).  Other than that (and the lack of a push-button control -- the trans body is different for those) it's the same as an M-8. As Cricket says, only used in 65-66 models behind V-8s. The M-8 was used behind sixes and V-8s (some internal differences, such as number of clutches and maybe programming of the valve body and/or governor) from 57-62.

I've seen 62 sixes with the cast iron M-8 and aluminum M-35. I think it was a late 62 model year change -- the TSM only shows the cast iron M-8 for 62. Could be later year trans swaps though, hard to tell with a 50+ year old car.
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OOPS ! I meant to say M-8.
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