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Dipstick tube arrived and got it installed along with the oil pan. The pan's baffle needed a hole in it for the oil dipstick to clear.



Also snapped a pic of the engine with the intake sitting on it, it's getting exciting! Gotta figure out what oil to run. I'm liking the Joe Gibbs Driven LS30.


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about oil, I was surprised to find euro formula Mobil 1 at our Advance auto store. its one of the best over the counter oils, though its not discounted in the ads. So, I went with high milage Castrol synthetic performance oil. it was $36 while the Mobil 1 performance 0w-20 was $32 there abouts, after discount.

As stated by a previous member about oils, Joe Gibbs does use another company to label their own oil. Though, it is spec is a Joe Gibbs formula not what is sold by original label. Many relabeled products get some additives or changes to the formula to make a product more suited to the needs of the order.

That is why Joe Gibbs oil rates better than the oil its based upon.

there is no reason why a high milage oil wont work, just the additives may not be suited for ones needs, by the fact shorter change cycles will be needed, as the oil has a smaller brake down window over the higher rated oils. Though it is one tuff oil when you need wear protection when you do stress the oil. Probaby a great oil for street use, and some occasional strip use without change outs.

I always used the brake down window as a key indicator to how often I change the oil. Stress the engine, your stressing the oil.
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After having wiped a distributor drive gearset in the current engine using Mobil 1 synthetic I'm trying to educate myself about oil characteristics.

There's an infamous oil blog out there (https://540ratblog.wordpress.com/2013/06/20/motor-oil-wear-test-ranking/) that says the sheering strength is most important regarding wear. The author goes to great lengths testing a variety of oils for many characteristics such as sheering strength and thermal breakdown temperature. The results of those tests indicate to me the Joe Gibbs LS30 is a good choice for this engine's use. My engine builder recommends the use of a break-in oil to seat the rings properly.

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Originally posted by Rebel Machine Rebel Machine wrote:

After having wiped a distributor drive gearset in the current engine using Mobil 1 synthetic I'm trying to educate myself about oil characteristics.

There's an infamous oil blog out there (https://540ratblog.wordpress.com/2013/06/20/motor-oil-wear-test-ranking/) that says the sheering strength is most important regarding wear. The author goes to great lengths testing a variety of oils for many characteristics such as sheering strength and thermal breakdown temperature. The results of those tests indicate to me the Joe Gibbs LS30 is a good choice for this engine's use. My engine builder recommends the use of a break-in oil to seat the rings properly.

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Wasn't negging your choice oil, just making comment on others that were also top rated. Yes, Mobil 1 has only one oil that meets your criteria, and that's the Euro formula, not the more commonly found oil you selected earlier.

I had the Euro formula rang up, and found it not part of the oil sale this month. It was another $20 on the total
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PennGrade 1, made at the old Kendall refinery in Bradford Pennsylvania.


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Thats a good looking build. I a looking forward to seeing your Dyno numbers.
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Originally posted by 1968Javelin343 1968Javelin343 wrote:

PennGrade 1, made at the old Kendall refinery in Bradford Pennsylvania.





My engine builder said Brad Penn recently significantly reduced the ZDDP in their oil. He liked the old Kendall stuff though.

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Steve,
PennGrade 1 still has all the ZDDP, the PennGrade select and PennGrade Blend are fully synthetic or a blend that are modern oil formulations with reduced ZDDP, etc.

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Originally posted by 1968Javelin343 1968Javelin343 wrote:

Steve,
PennGrade 1 still has all the ZDDP, the PennGrade select and PennGrade Blend are fully synthetic or a blend that are modern oil formulations with reduced ZDDP, etc.



Good to know, thanks for clearing that up.

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Amsoil makes an oil specifically for the older hot rods, zddp included.
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