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    Posted: May/14/2019 at 7:10pm
Went out and measured the rear axle in the '69 AMX. I removed the rear tires & brake drums then clamped a section of 1" square tubing to each axle face then measured between them. Measures 58 3/4" Also measured the leaf spring width, it's 43 1/2".

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Originally posted by Rebel Machine Rebel Machine wrote:

Originally posted by Phitown Hustler Phitown Hustler wrote:

Why bother with an AMC 20 in any performance car unless their is no other option? Here is a crate rearend that will bolt in and offer myriads of options and of course be bulletproof.




Yes yes yes, pad spacing is the same and perches are on the correct side



Might be a bit wide for the AMX, specs on that rear axle show 60.5" axle flange width.

Right now an 8" wide wheel with a 5" backspacing is a perfect fit. Problem is there aren't that many 8" wheels with a 5" backspace. The Weld Prostar is but the set I bought a few years ago had a crazy amount of run-out and for some reason the front ones tore up a pair of front hubs. I got rid of them. Most appear to be 4.5" or 5.5".

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5" backspacing 16x8's used to be more common than 15x8's.

Factory Jeep (5 on 4.5" TJ's) 15x8's are 5.5" backspacing so that's in the ballpark anyway.
XJ, ZJ & TJ 15x7's are 5.25" backspacing, so they're also in the ballpark but narrower obviously.

I'm not so much suggesting you use Jeep wheels,
but maybe look to aftermarket wheels meant for Jeeps.
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Originally posted by Phitown Hustler Phitown Hustler wrote:

Why bother with an AMC 20 in any performance car unless their is no other option? Here is a crate rearend that will bolt in and offer myriads of options and of course be bulletproof.




Yes yes yes, pad spacing is the same and perches are on the correct side



Might be a bit wide for the AMX, specs on that rear axle show 60.5" axle flange width.

Right now an 8" wide wheel with a 5" backspacing is a perfect fit. Problem is there aren't that many 8" wheels with a 5" backspace. The Weld Prostar is but the set I bought a few years ago had a crazy amount of run-out and for some reason the front ones tore up a pair of front hubs. I got rid of them. Most appear to be 4.5" or 5.5".

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most late model AMC wheels had 4.5 bs. In a leaf spring car with 275 rubber on a 4.5 wheel you are very close to the spring. For the AMX Likely you will need to move the springs inboard and mini tub to fit big rubber regardless of axle width. Just not enough room in the wheelhouse 
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Originally posted by Phitown Hustler Phitown Hustler wrote:

wheel backspace is more important than axle width especially with a leaf spring car. 



That's what I'm really after. The stock AMC 20 in the '69 AMX limits the choice of wheels due to it's width. I'm going with a 9" with the new engine.

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wheel backspace is more important than axle width especially with a leaf spring car. 
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53.25 over the tube flanges.  RH tube is .75 longer than LH.  43.56 CLs on spring mtg holes.
If you want pinion offset, let me know as.this gets stored Saturday and that's it for measurements
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Who said he was using an AMC 20? It's clear to me that his plan is to not use one
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Why bother with an AMC 20 in any performance car unless their is no other option? Here is a crate rearend that will bolt in and offer myriads of options and of course be bulletproof.


https://www.currieenterprises.com/CE-JMJ8692X


Yes yes yes, pad spacing is the same and perches are on the correct side
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Originally posted by Steve_P Steve_P wrote:

Originally posted by Rebel Machine Rebel Machine wrote:

A rough measurement shows 54". As I recall the '70 rear axle is 1" wider than the '68/'69.

Anyone have the actual dimensions? I'm going to need a better rear end for my AMX when the new engine is installed.

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Do you want to know the housing width for a 68-9 over the axle tube flanges?

edit- I have a bare 68 housing so tell me what you want to know if it's for a 68-9



If it's not a bother, yeah. Sounds like the standard measurement is axle flange to axle flange (mating surface of wheel).

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