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    Posted: Aug/11/2014 at 11:53pm
Well, looks like the parking situation at my house is going to get a little more interesting.  I just made final arrangements with Andrew (TheHubble) to buy his 65 Classic wagon. Big smile  He's going to deliver it this Saturday and I've never wanted a week to end so intensely!  

It will need a lot of TLC, which I intend to document here.  I plan to lower it a bit and pretty much drive it like it is now.  I know some don't understand the whole "patina" thing, but I certainly do and this car has perfect patina.  That doesn't mean I'm not going to patch panels and fix things.  Quite the opposite.  But don't expect a fancy paint job and flawless sheet metal here, either.  It's just too cool the way it looks now.

Here's the current list of known issues and things to do:

  1. No engine - I plan to drop another 232 in it, so I'll need to source an early 232 (71 and older).
  2. Cracked windshield - I believe any 65-66 Classic/Ambassador and maybe 67 windshield should work.
  3. Rust - It doesn't have too much, but the floor pans and tailgate areas have some issues, as well as the rear quarters and some other small spots here and there.
  4. Brakes - Andrew never got a chance to dig into the brakes.  I'll probably rebuild them to be safe.  We'll see when it gets here.
  5. Doors - It looks like someone forgot to set the parking brake and it rolled backwards into the garage door with both doors open.  At least that's what I imagine happened.
  6. Drive it! - Ok, maybe a bit optimistic, but hey, a guy can dream Smile
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Here's some pictures that Andrew took for me.  This wagon is so cool!  Cool

















Now THIS is a rear profile!  Mmmmm tailgate.  First road trip: http://www.starlitedrivein.com/


She's got some junk in the trunk Wink  when I say junk, I mean lots of both NOS, spare, and new parts!


Some rust in the tailgate area.   


The transmission is out and on torque tube cars the transmission keeps the rear wheels centered.  So when Andrew moved it out into the driveway, the rear axle swung a little bit.  So no issue there, just looks funny in the pictures!



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That will be a fun project. Wagons are very cool.
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Ray, make sure you check the cowl area on the driver's side and in the hidden compartment in the back on the passenger side for rust. Those two areas on my '64 660 wagon were bad and I think it's a common area for rust on the Classic/Ambos.
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The station wagons and 4 door sedans have a different windshield than other Ambos/Classics. It's 2 inches taller. Be sure you get one that fits wagons.

Also - you might want to gently remove that headliner and inspect what's going on to the underside of the roof. The gaskets of the roof rack often rot and water leaks in. I detect some tell-tale roof rot at the back of the roof over the tailgate window. Arrested decay is fine - but you might have a more compromised roof than you want. If you take the headliner out, you can treat it and prevent more of it. Taking the headliner out isn't odious. It's in two pieces. Remove all the trim from around the edges of it and lower it down. It's a two person job, but isn't awful. The headliner is a thin fiberglass shell covered in fabric.


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Thanks for the info SEdmonds and RocklandRambler. Does the 4 door sedan glass fit the wagon? Or is it wagon only? I'll check the roof and cowl area when it gets here. I've been practicing my welding on my sister-in-law's jeep, so I'm fairly confident I can patch what I need to. I'll just have to take it slow so I don't warp the panels! That was less of a concern on her jeep!
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I will have to check my notes on the restoration of my car (and I am at lunch at work), BUT I believe the wagons and the 4 door sedans used the same windshields.
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You definitely need a wiper motor mount plate.

Pull it out and you will probably find some rust there. You can treat it and fiberglas it unless it is major.
Both cowl corners need checked a probably some repair.

The roof is a common rust area in the south, I think due to leaking gaskets and condensation.

I'd give you a 69 232, but it is a bit far away from you.


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She's here!   Andrew dropped her off Saturday afternoon (thanks again, Andrew!)  I haven't been able to look her over very well just yet.  I made a promise to help my brother and sister-in-law with their Jeep.  I did take the transmission with us over to the garage and cleaned it up some.

Only one pic for now.  The rest are on the big camera and I need to get to bed.  I'll post those tomorrow.  This one's a kind of "before and after" on the transmission.  It was coated with a thick layer of grease, oil, and dirt.  Here's hoping it works and I didn't do all that scrubbing for nothing!



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If it doesn't work that is still how clean you want it before rebuild.
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