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tyrodtom
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Topic: Air compressor locationPosted: Jan/06/2012 at 9:45am |
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I used the pallet the compressor came on, but I took the bolts loose and added thick rubber pads at each point.
Plus I cut a big hole in the bottom of the pallet so you can get at the bottom drain easier.
Edited by tyrodtom - Jan/06/2012 at 9:47am |
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Posted: Jan/06/2012 at 2:02am |
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I see alot of shops in my line of work and most tend to leave the compressors on the shipping pallets since they are custom build for the compressors. Many shops also mount the tanks high over office space with the compressor heads mounted elsewhere. Rotory compressors normally don't have any storage tanks at all. If a compressor is mounted in another building don't run the line in the ground to your shop. This creates a very large J trap that will fill with water and when it gets full enough you will get a slug of water through your air tools. I have seen repeated 1" drive impact wrenchs with split cases because underground shop air plumbing. Copper pipe is still the best pipe to use for an air system and is easily changed to add additional work stations when addition equipment is installed. In the NAPA Tool and equipment catalog there is a picture showing how to build a state of the art air system.
I still run a 5 hp 30 gallon portable with a 25' air hose. Some day I will build an addition garage and then I can plumb it the way I want.
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Posted: Dec/27/2011 at 8:32pm |
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Mine will go on it's own "tower" outside the upper floor with lines inside the building. Having it inside is noise and heat (I'll hook up a flex hose to pipe heat in for winter to cut costs)
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Posted: Dec/25/2011 at 4:03pm |
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a friend of mine installs car lifts that are air powered and gave me some rubber pads for mine to sit on my shop floor they wont let the compressor walk and actually quiet it down a lot, but as always if your compressor is in another room its a lot easier to stay focused on your work in your shop area with out all the noise.
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Wrambler
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Posted: Oct/13/2011 at 11:58am |
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What I need is a reasonably price horizontal with good output.
I don't have room for a vertical as the electric meter is above the current spot. I don't want to move it because it is outside a no longer used sons bedroom, so it is not heard through out the house while running. My existing compressor has a pinhole rust spot in the bottom of the tank and it is time for a new one. |
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tyrodtom
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Posted: Oct/13/2011 at 10:59am |
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I keep mine outside too, because of all the noise, plus outside is a there's cleaner air for the compressor to breathe. With all the grinding and paint floating around in my garage, it just wasn't healthy for the compressor. The slow starts in the winter was solved by keeping synthectic oil in the compressor, froze air lines by having a very good drainback system that goes all the way to the top of the 2nd floor of my garage, all moisture in my line, which is at about a 30 deg incline, goes back to the compressor tank, which I drain often.
I've got 2 compressors out there, my old one lasted over 20 years out there, it now used as a extra air storage for my newer compressor.
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Wrambler
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Posted: Oct/13/2011 at 9:52am |
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Mine is outside in a corner, with a roof and alternating boards inclosure so you can't see it , but it gets plenty of air flow. It is an 1987 (yes not a typo) Sears 5hp with a 20 gallon tank. I can turn it on any time at any temp and it never gives me a moments problem, none and it has been there for about 20 years now! I have a 3/8" brass pipe in the drain that is about 18"s long and most of the moisture flows into it, then I drain it with a ball valve. Hardline is 3/8" pipe to 12" long pipe with a drain drop at one end of the Compressor. Inside the building it switches up to 1.5" pipe goes straight up to the ceiling with another ball valve drop for moisture collection It travels at about 8' high 28 ' through the parking garage, then goes into a crawl space and yet another pipe drop with ball valve! Then it goes 18' into my shop and, yes you guessed it ANOTHER drop and ball valve.
With the large pipe radiating off any heat traveling with the compressed air, I get water at the 1st 3 drops. Two drop came out in the shop one time. The 1.5" pipe is way overkill, but it was FREE and never used to carry liquids or even air. I did the math and it was the same cost to buy a threading kit as to buy all 3/4 pipe, so I bought the threading kit and went to town. The key is to get the pipe to go high with as many drops and ball valves as you think is necessary. If you have two stores you can go clear to the top of the second story in a U and bring it back down. Leaving 1-2' "drops at the bottom of both legs. By the time the air goes that high and drops most of the moisture will condense and fall out of the air stream dropping into the trap lengths of pipe. My neighbor built a 5'X5' shed freestanding for his upright no heat and never had an issue. It is about 10' from his garage. You can do something as simple as a flood or reflected regular bulb aimed at the compressor to keep it just a touch warmer if you are worried about freezups. Can be on a timer or I think you can get temp switches to turn it on when it is below freezing. Noisy compressor in the shop is not my cup of tea at all. I just had a hearing test and My hearing is still really good for a 50 year old, I'd like to keep it that way. I wear ear protection when doing most anything with power tools, mowing, weed eating etc; Edited by Wrambler - Oct/13/2011 at 9:54am |
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Posted: Oct/12/2011 at 10:28pm |
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In one shop I worked the boss at one time had the compressor in another building across the alley - yeah, frozen lines (and other issues)
On my compressor, I ran a short nipple down, then a length of pipe, then a ball valve. Water will accumulate in the pipe instead of the tank. I might use a larger pipe to hold more water as I know how I get with memory issues. In Iowa summers, I've run it only 2 or 3 times a day and gotten over a cup of water out after 2 days.
The tank of my 25 year old Craftsman compressor has pin holes in the bottom...... Edited by billd - Oct/12/2011 at 10:30pm |
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Posted: Oct/12/2011 at 8:12pm |
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In my old garage I put my air compressor in the upstairs. I chocked the wheels and ran a wire from a wall switch to a plug-in for the compressor to turn it on/off when needed. 2 things I discovered after the 1st year-- even though I placed it near the soffit and the garage had roof vents the area got to hot in the summer and it would overheat and trip the motor out. 2nd, during the winter, being in an unheated area the air compressor would just slowly turn over because of the oil getting thick. Any thing below zero outside, forget using it.
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Posted: Oct/12/2011 at 6:06pm |
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I dont think I would do the shed and pipe it to the main building as said you will get water in the line and it will freeze. When I had a shop with my dad the compressor was out side the main building in a wood shed that shared 1 wall with the building so was not too warm in the winter. Be cause we did body work the tank was drained every few days. They do make auto bleeds for tanks you could get.
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