TheAMCForum.com Homepage
Forum Home Forum Home > The Garage > Body/Interior
  New Posts New Posts RSS Feed - Tacky interior
  FAQ FAQ  Forum Search   Events   Register Register  Login Login

Click for TheAMCForum Rules / Click for PDF version of Forum Rules
Your donations help keep this valuable resource free and growing. Thank you.

Tacky interior

 Post Reply Post Reply
Author
Message
Cornelius Rambler View Drop Down
AMC Nut
AMC Nut


Joined: May/13/2013
Location: Escondido CA
Status: Offline
Points: 252
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Cornelius Rambler Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Topic: Tacky interior
    Posted: Nov/13/2018 at 4:15pm
OK...I dyed a few soft interior parts. Dash pad, arm rests, door panels, console, sun visors, etc. Did it the same as I always have. Cleaned with denatured alcohol, hit with SEM vinyl adhesion promoter and then SEM vinyl dye. Let dry first inside and then outside in the sun. Still sticky after 8 years.

Thoughts?
Back to Top
304-dude View Drop Down
AMC Addicted
AMC Addicted
Avatar

Joined: Sep/29/2008
Location: Central Illinoi
Status: Offline
Points: 9081
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote 304-dude Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Nov/13/2018 at 5:01pm
Originally posted by Cornelius Rambler Cornelius Rambler wrote:

OK...I dyed a few soft interior parts. Dash pad, arm rests, door panels, console, sun visors, etc. Did it the same as I always have. Cleaned with denatured alcohol, hit with SEM vinyl adhesion promoter and then SEM vinyl dye. Let dry first inside and then outside in the sun. Still sticky after 8 years.

Thoughts?


Possible not mixed well enough, or there was Armorall used In its past life. You need to strip it down and neutralise the surface for the next application.

I will be mixing my own acrylic vinyl and leather paint, as it covers without making a permanent bond. Just don't clean with solvents, simple water and soap to keep it nice. Plus you don't get toxic chemical spray from a can. If I need to change color later on, I just use remover and prep with alcohol. The nice thing about the acrylic paint, it is water based. You can mix it 50/50 with alcohol for fast dry or water for normal. And do multiple thin coatings.

You can also obtain glossy, matte, patten (ultra shinny), flat and metallics like silver and gold, along with neon colors for modding out.

Just have to use a digital color matcher app to match RGB colors and mix with base red, white, blue, black and yellow. All non metallic colors can be matched with those basic colors.

I learned all this with re-dying a custom leather steering wheel cover for a member. Turned out pretty well considering i only had photos to match with, and a few swatches of mixes for comparing to actual material. Just ended up a wee darker, because of time constraints.
71 Javelin SST body
390 69 crank, 70 block & heads
NASCAR SB2 rods & pistons
78 Jeep TH400 w/ 2.76 Low
50/50 Ford-AMC Suspension
79 F150 rear & 8.8 axles
Ford Racing 3.25 gears & 9" /w Detroit locker
Back to Top
Cornelius Rambler View Drop Down
AMC Nut
AMC Nut


Joined: May/13/2013
Location: Escondido CA
Status: Offline
Points: 252
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Cornelius Rambler Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Nov/14/2018 at 7:16pm
Thanks Dude!

I always thought (hoped..) that a good scrub with alcohol with take care of the Armorall's, the waxes and human contaminates. What would you suggest? 
Back to Top
304-dude View Drop Down
AMC Addicted
AMC Addicted
Avatar

Joined: Sep/29/2008
Location: Central Illinoi
Status: Offline
Points: 9081
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote 304-dude Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Nov/14/2018 at 7:49pm
I use 50/50 MEK and Alcohol. Don't rub in daub or test with a q tip swab in a rolling not sliding method, it should loosen and lift off the previous application, of paint. Also MEK will draw out chemicals on the surface of the vinyl.

Don't use any more than 50% MEK.

Once you start seeing the original color stop and let dry over 30 minutes before trying more cleaning.

MEK can be used safely, as long as you keep from saturating the material, and strong or vigorous scrubbing.

You will notice the MEK will make the material feel lubricated by how the paint becomes jellied by the lack of solvent in its chemical breakup. You will go through a bit of towels, as you don't want to be applying the loose paint around over the cleaned areas.

It just so happens I have the same condition with my door panels and kick panels, which I have been setting as side for when I finish other things.

I may have time next week to show what it takes to lift off and deep clean trouble to repaint over past applications.

If not sure about your first attempt you can test on the back side of a panel with a damp application, as not to drip or saturate the surface and spill onto the areas you don't want to be touched.



Edited by 304-dude - Nov/14/2018 at 7:52pm
71 Javelin SST body
390 69 crank, 70 block & heads
NASCAR SB2 rods & pistons
78 Jeep TH400 w/ 2.76 Low
50/50 Ford-AMC Suspension
79 F150 rear & 8.8 axles
Ford Racing 3.25 gears & 9" /w Detroit locker
Back to Top
Cornelius Rambler View Drop Down
AMC Nut
AMC Nut


Joined: May/13/2013
Location: Escondido CA
Status: Offline
Points: 252
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Cornelius Rambler Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Nov/15/2018 at 6:34pm
Thanks again for the information! I'll give it a shot this weekend...
Back to Top
farna View Drop Down
Supporter of TheAMCForum
Supporter of TheAMCForum
Avatar
Moderator Lost Dealership Project

Joined: Jul/08/2007
Location: South Carolina
Status: Offline
Points: 19610
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote farna Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Nov/16/2018 at 6:11am
You might be able to wipe it with alcohol or some other solvent now and get rid of most of the tackiness. Worth a shot!I've done it and it helped, used regular rattle can paint on some vinyl arm rests and had same results. Soaked a cloth in mineral spirits and wiped, most tackiness gone. I was getting ready to strip them down and start over.
Frank Swygert
Back to Top
Cornelius Rambler View Drop Down
AMC Nut
AMC Nut


Joined: May/13/2013
Location: Escondido CA
Status: Offline
Points: 252
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Cornelius Rambler Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Nov/16/2018 at 5:17pm
Before stripping it down and starting all over, I'll give it a try!

Thanks for the input!!!
Back to Top
knobbler View Drop Down
AMC Apprentice
AMC Apprentice


Joined: Sep/13/2015
Location: Seattle
Status: Offline
Points: 171
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote knobbler Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Nov/17/2018 at 3:57pm
Originally posted by farna farna wrote:

Soaked a cloth in mineral spirits and wiped, most tackiness gone. I was getting ready to strip them down and start over.



Same here, except I used parts store vinyl "dye" and turpentine to remove the stickiness. Took a couple passes, but it was stuck-free and pine tree fresh by the time it was done. If I was doing it again, I'd use mineral spirits like farna said.
Back to Top
 Post Reply Post Reply
  Share Topic   

Forum Jump Forum Permissions View Drop Down

Forum Software by Web Wiz Forums® version 12.03
Copyright ©2001-2019 Web Wiz Ltd.

This page was generated in 0.188 seconds.
All content of this site Copyright © 2018 TheAMCForum unless otherwise noted, all rights reserved.
PROBLEMS LOGGING IN or REGISTERING:
If you have problems logging in or registering, then please contact a Moderator or