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raser13
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Posted: Nov/25/2015 at 11:10pm |
Hey guys and gals, need your help. I have a set of the 79 amx rims that came on my 73 javelin. They're in definate need of clean up.
What i need is a good way to strip off the old black paint and clear coat. Any good ideas how to do that? Also any sugestions on paint and clear to put back on it once i get done polishing them back up whith steel wool? I would assume i could just use black high temp caliper paint and a high temp clear. Do i need a primmer under the black? Any suggestions on a brand to get? Avoid? This is the kind of results I'm hopping to achieve. So any help would be great, because the last set of rims i painted was when i was a teen. I use regular rattle can black paint from wal mart. That started to flake off after about a year. I want to do these the right way. Thanks for any info. Edited by raser13 - Nov/25/2015 at 11:15pm |
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FuzzFace2
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At first I was going to say bead blast them till I saw what you have.
I don't know what paint stripper would do to the alum wheel? Maybe try a place in the back side to see what would happen. Thinking it may turn the wheel black? May be have them dipped but again could turn them black? Guess you could still have just the black areas blasted as this would give the paint some bite to stick just don't know if they could protect the other areas from blast? I would say once stripped prep them for paint just like you would anything else. My thinking on your old wheels & flaking was they were not prepped right. I would polish them before painting, prep the areas to be painted (clean/degrease, sand, clean/degrease, paint) and tape off the other areas not to be painted and paint them. Dave ---- |
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uncljohn
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A chemical paint stripper that is neutralized by washing with water is what I would try. Read the instructions on the can to determine what is available as to possible problems with aluminum. And a high temperature caliper paint is not necessary although It possibly is a good product. I have used steel wool in various grades, 4 zero is a polishing level and zero (0) I think would be too course to use as it would lead to scratching the surface. two zero I think I used to help remove the clear on a set of wheels I did a few years a go to get the finish off initially and worked with 3 and 4 zero to clean them nicely. Rustoleum has good clear and color products for rattle can application and of course PPG makes Clear products for automotive painting if you have a compressor and a paint gun.
Acetone can remove paint also and I think that is what I used but the wheels were smaller than the AMC wheels you wish to use and the polished area was a small percentage of the total problem. |
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raser13
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I've heard of people using brake fluid as a stripper so as to not dammage the alluminum? Any one ever try it? Beacause if brake fluid works then I'd just have to use dawn to get the oil residue off. Anything else like that? I really don't want to f these rims up by using something harsh. I don't care if it takes longer to strip them as long as there's no dammage.
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tyrodtom
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Used a regular paint stripper that says it aircraft paint stripper, that's just another way of saying it's safe to use on aluminum.
DON'T even consider using oven cleaner, some contain lye, as do some paint strippers, that will destroy aluminum. I'm not a fan of anything in a spray can. If you have a aircompressor, and half way decent spray gun. Use them. If you expect your work to last, always use primer. There are paints out there that claim to not need a separate primer, but they're compromises. You'll always get better looking, longer lasting results using separate primer and paint. If you've got no choice but rattle can, go Rustoleum, or Krylon, but don't mix brands. Use Rustoleum primer, paint, and if you want to clear. Don't use like Rustoleum primer, and put Krylon over it. I've got less than the best results doing that. The only time I've used spray cans is when I was in a real rush, I usually regretted it later. |
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mstrcrftr
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I would take them to a company such as "wheels America" they do wheel reconditioning for body shops and insurance companies. they usually come with a lifetime warranty on workmanship. they will even remove the tire if nec. you cant do it as cheap as they can.
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I can tell you that I've used brake fluid to strip paint from plastic dashboard parts with no damage to the plastic (removed all the paint but not the underlying 'chrome' finish) so I wouldn't hesitate to use it for an aluminum wheel. Since you can get aluminum brake calipers I wouldn't think it to be harmful. |
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raser13
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Thanks guys for all the info. I appreciate it. I think I'd like to try my hand at stripping,polishing,and restoring these myself.
I know how to mask, polish and paint. I do models for my other hobby. but i planned to start with 0000 steel wool and work to my polishing pads and pastes. That's the fun part of owning a car that needs to be restored to me. Taking some thing that was broken, rusty, and not so pretty and making it look new and working again. It puts a smile on my face. |
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scott
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The September 2008 issue ( I think that is the issue) of Hemmings Muscle Machines has an article on refinishing these exact wheels. Here's a link to the blog about the car they are on: http://blog.hemmings.com/index.php/2008/07/02/hmx-new-shoes/
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raser13
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Dang it now i have to try and hunt down a copy. Maybe the local library will have it.
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