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Topic: SS/AMX History and DocumentationPosted: May/08/2009 at 5:14pm |
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Disclaimer: The following people provided info, feedback, and help with this post. I would like to thank them all. Jim L'Esperance, Ross Gilbert, Ted Kijek, Dave Siipola, Dick Erlandson, and Robert McCorkle, former original owners of these cars. Mike Weaver and George Gudat, current owners of these cars who operate the www.ssamx.com website, and whom I have corresponded with over the years about these cars. Rick Wyman, Steve P, Bill D, Scott, and Ian from this site who research the various aspects of the cars. "Kevin of Cincinatty", Joe R. from NY, Rick C. and others for what they contributed. Andre Jacobs, who shared info with me years ago and Dave Lesick, both current owners of these cars. Eddie Stakes from www.planethoustonamx.com for some info on his website. And the many photographers whose pictures I used on this thread whom I am not able to identify. Steve Avery, especially for his photograph interpretations. More when I think of them, but this is an assembly of collected works and I no way wish to take credit for much of what is here.
I can also be reached by phone most evenings (508) 378-1423.
Thanks
I don't know where else to post this, so I thought I would put it here. Please note-some of these images were taken from various sites on the net. I have original copies of the documentation and factory/magazine pictures and can scan and post them if someone wants to see my copy-I just thought I would save some time posting what is already scanned.
I do NOT have copies of many of the color pictures on the web and do not take credit for them. The beginning is always a great place to start, so let’s get a little history of the beginning out of the way. When George Hurst left the Navy he opened a repair shop in Philadelphia and quickly became known for his engine swaps. This was made easier because he developed a set of motor mounts that allowed for a number of engine and then later engine/trans swaps. The tranny swapping was a natural beginning to an industry creating shifters. Hurst eventually contacted enough buyers that he built a production facility in Warminster, Pennsylvania, to go along with his research facility in Madison Heights, Michigan. Jack “Doc” Watson was hired as an engineer to work in Michigan and he quickly became involved in some special projects, most notably the Barracuda wheelstander “Hemi Under Glass” and the “Hurst Hairy Olds.” Here is an early showing of some Hurst cars at the drags:
Hemi Under Glass wheelstander (Named because the engine is under the big back window):
Hurst Hairy Olds:
Hurst’s biggest break came when Pontiac agreed to sell his shifters as a dealer installed part in 1963, then made them OEM (factory installed-Original Equipment-Manufacturer) in 1964. Other auto makers followed suit, and soon the Hurst shifter was available in most muscle cars right from the factory (AMC in mid-69, to coincide with the new Hurst inspired SC/Rambler). In 1968, Watson made a special Oldsmobile for George Hurst. George convinced Olds to make the car, and in June 1968 the first of a series of Hurst Olds were made. The cars were made in the Lansing, MI assembly line, and then sent to Demmers Tool and Die Company (in an old warehouse) for assembly. These were NOT done at the Hurst facility. Here is one:
Also in 1968,
“From the web: In 1968, “During the 1968 model year, between 50 and 70 (reports vary) Dart 2-door hardtops were fitted with the 426 Hemi engine. These cars were purpose-built race cars, did not come with a warranty, and were not intended for street use (although some enterprising purchasers did manage to register them). They are variously known as Super Stock or "LO23" Darts, the latter taken from the first four digits of their VINs. The cars were built without engines and shipped to There was one other interesting At this same time, some point in early October 1968, Here is an "A" scheme SCRambler:
Here is a "B" scheme SCRambler:
![]() Work began on the cars, but I do not know exactly when. AMC already had a Performance Division in place, notably to promote the Grant funny car Rebel driven first by "Banzai" Bill Hayes, and when he was injured he was replaced by Hayden Proffit. A Performance Activities binder was sent to dealers with the promise of many future bulletins to help local performance events. Here are three: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() They were gearing up to race the Javelins in the Trans Am racing series in 68, and felt someone in charge of performance would be an asset to the company. Carl Chakmakian was the man for the job. ![]() ![]() Here are some pics of the 68 Javelin Trans Am cars and Grant's Funny car:
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![]() A prototype Super Stock 1969 So what is homologation? Here is a definition: “In motorsports, Homologation refers to the approval process a vehicle must go through to race in a given league or series. The regulations and rules that must be met are generally set by the series' sanctioning body. The word is derived from the Latin homologare for "agree".” “In racing series that are "production-based," (that is, the vehicles entered in the series are based on production vehicles for sale to the public), homologation entails not only compliance with a racing series technical guidelines (for example, engine displacement, chassis construction, suspension design and such) but it often includes minimum levels of sales to ensure that vehicles are not designed and produced solely for racing in that series. Since such vehicles are primarily intended for the race track, use on public roadways is generally a secondary design consideration, except as required to meet government regulations.” So a minimum was needed to build a car for use on the track. The NHRA declared 50, but other sanctioning bodies were not the same. It is said 100 Trans Am Javelins were built in 1970 for homologation purposes. What were they homologating? This car had a tri color paint scheme with dealer available spoilers front and rear. I’ve always heard 100 for homologation reasons, but never was able to document this. This is called “hearsay evidence” until it can be supported. There is support that at the beginning of the 1970 SCCA Trans Am racing season the homologation standards changed. Now a percentage of the previous years’ production must be made to homologate a car or part. For 1970,
It had a special spoiler, and a percentage of the previous years Javelin production had to be made to allow “From the web: Officially 2,724 AAR 'Cuda's with The T/A would only be available for 1970 as Dodge pulled out of Trans Am racing. Only 2,142 T/As were made.” As you can see. Less than 2500. Yet for years, the And for history, here are the production numbers for the Boss 302 Mustang, Z/28 Camaro, and Trans-Am Firebird, all 1970 SCCA Trans Am race cars: “Boss 302- Production numbers were 1,628 in 1969 and 7,013 in 1970. Base Price in 1970 was about $3,720.” The Z/28 option code was introduced in December 1966 for the 1967 model year. This option package wasn't mentioned in any sales literature, so it was unknown to most buyers. The Z/28 option required power front disc brakes and a Only 602 Z/28s were sold in 1967. The 1967 and 1968 Z/28s did not have raised cowl induction hoods as was optional on the 1969 Z/28s. The 1967 Z28 received air from an open element air cleaner or from an optional cowl plenum duct attached to the side of the air cleaner that ran to the firewall and got air from the cowl vents. 15-inch rally wheels, were included with Z/28s had while all other 1967-9 Camaros had 14-inch wheels. The origin of the Z/28 nameplate came from the RPO codes - RPO Z27 was for the Super Sport package, and RPO Z28, at the time, was the code for a Special Performance Package. 67 Production numbers: RS: 64,842 SS: 34,411 Z28: 602 Total: 220,906 68 Production numbers: RS: 40,977 SS: 27,884 Z28: 7,199 Total: 235,147 69 Production numbers: RS: 37,773 SS: 34,932 Z28: 20,302 Total: 243,085 1970- "Z-28 Special Performance Package" featuring a new high-performance LT-1 360 hp (268 kW) 380 lb*ft (520 N*m) of torque 350 cu in (5.7 L) V8 1970 Production Numbers Z28 8,733 $572.95 1970 Eliminator production figure = 2,267 1969 Eliminator production figure = 2,250 Here are the 69 Production Figures: 1970 numbers: Javelin-40,675 1/250th=1017 Total made-2501 Mustang-299,824 1/250th=7496 Total made-7013 Boss 302 Cougar-100,085 1/250th=2502 Total made-2267 Eliminator Camaro-243,085 1/250th=6077 Total made-8733 Z28 Firebird-87,011 1/250th=2175 Total made-3196 Trans Am Barracuda-31,987 1/250th=800 Total made-2873 AAR Cuda Challenger-new for 1970 1/250th=? Total made-2142 TA Challenger And while I am on production numbers, here are a few more: 1512 SC/Ramblers were made. Why? Because that is all they sold. (It was a mid-year production car). If they could have sold 3,000, they would have. There were 784 SC360s made. Why? Because this car was never meant to sell a lot, but to get people into the dealerships. A letter was sent out to dealers stating the timeline for ordering SC360s had ended, and production had ceased on the car.
It was never designed to be a big seller. Here are two Primary Source Documents showing just that:
Machines: there were 1936 cars made. Here is the Primary Source document:
Despite this “in-your-face-can’t-get-any-clearer” document, people still say 2326 were made, or “depending on the source, there were 1936 or 2326 made”. Please, what is the other source???? This is THE final production document from Back to the Super Stock cars. It is written all over the place that the NHRA needed 50 built cars to be sanctioned for racing. Here are some examples from other makes: “These 50 special Novas fit into NHRA rules structure, but the stylish though often heavier Camaro remained the weapon of choice for most competitors; with the new transmission, Chevrolet had cars in both SS/C and SS/CA. By the time they arrived (Spring 1968), (Gibb Chevy Nova II)” “W-30 Olds Smith and “Though the ZL1 Camaro was the sleeper's sleeper, it was never meant for road use. The idea was to homologate these cars for NHRA Super Stock racing. To satisfy the rule, Chevrolet had to build and sell at least 50 of them. La Despite everyone saying 50, the
Note the price-not to exceed $5000. This was signed by Bill McNeilly, the VP of Marketing, who had the enviable job of promoting this and other AMC cars. Here is a copy of the envelope (I told you Cox saved everything, dated it, 3 hole punched it and put it in a binder).
The letter as seen above mainly asked for 50 dealers to step forward to order the car or it would not be made. Price would be about $5000. The deadline to order was So, can we all agree Let’s look at one other clue from this Primary Source document. Note the date? Somewhat early in the model year. So why do we see “after the success of the SC/Rambler, Therefore, the “success” of the SC/Rambler had nothing to do with the SS/ Two myths down……. The This letter stated the dealership was contacted as they had sponsored a race car the previous year. It went on to say what was going to be done to the car: Hood scoop and induction Special manifold and carbs Clutch and bellhousing Modified cylinder heads Relocated battery Modified suspension Altered wheelwells It also stated it was not for street use, did not pass emissions, and had no warranty. Nothing about tires and wheels, paint, pistons, etc. etc. And get this: "the prototype vehicle is nearing completion". So here is an admission from Another myth down (and FYI-the whereabouts of this car is known-Howard Maseles raced it for Hurst, then Jack Thomas and then it was sold to Garrett Ghezzi, who still owns it and races it competitively.) Here is a copy of the Dec 2 letter:
So, you now see why I questioned the production numbers of these cars. Here are some pictures of the original prototype
Here she is with
This is one of the test runs down the track for the Press.
I have to wonder about this scoop, but then again, they did design the Hurst Olds scoop and the SCRambler scoop.
Here she is inside the car. Note back of scoop, heater controls (remember, it was a prototype. No big deal). Headrests have been removed. And is that a clock knob?
And again. Carpet is obviously cut, no radio pod, tach in the center pad, the car had headrests but they have been removed. Waffle style headliner. And a block of wood on the clutch pedal!
Definitely a white car. Still has hood hinges, missing core support bars, filler in front of radiator, (Piece attached under the hood did not see production).
(Some of these pics came from a Car Craft article). Also involved with this project was David Landrith, who had just signed on with Hurst and would leave in 1971 to start his own racing consulting firm-one of his first customers were the Shahans and their Hornet and Gremlin SS cars. Here is a scan of
Though it may look like this SS/ And Dave was not the only one to come from Hurst:
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Tom; None of the documents or figures were included in the post. Can they be reposted? Thanks
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So here is an admission from AMC on a Primary Source document that states a Hurst SS/AMX was made that is not in the sequence commonly accepted. Call it prototype or whatever, it is a Hurst-made SS/AMX, but this car surely does NOT fit into the VIN sequence we have all seen and acknowledged as “the only ones made” Another myth down (and FYI-the whereabouts of this car was known in the early 80s-Howard someone owned it. Anyone know more?) Yes I do. |
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Thanks for the write up Thomas, I still hope you put all this documentation in to book form some day and get a publishing deal. Looking forward to the pics to go along with the post.
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And will you share? This AMC history lesson is an excellent bonus prize for deciding to join the hobby just last Nov. Can't wait to hear more. Your first name wouldn't be Howard would it? :) Edited by PlazinJavelin - May/08/2009 at 8:26pm |
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"Also, the images are not part of this article yet-I will add them probably Sunday"
( theamcguy - Second sentence in the first post )
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Now the cars were a go. Cars were shipped to So let’s look at photo number 1.
The cars appear white with black wheels. Possibly 3 aircleaner assemblies stacked near the crate. Some hoods appear to be upside down on the roofs, other are still on the car. Decklids are open. There appears to be an engine/tranny combo on a wooden pallet in front of one car. There is a portable engine puller in front of one of the cars. There is some stuff on top of the upside down hoods. And please note: Rocker Moldings! Another myth undone. Now look at photo number 2.
There are obviously some stamped metal parts in the crates. No idea what they had to do with The first car looks like it is missing the steering wheel as you look through the passenger door window. And look all the way back at the car up higher than the rest. Sure looks like a Javelin to me, missing the door and nose. So anyone know what that is doing there? A Now look at both pictures combined and cropped by Kevin of Cincinatty:
How many cars do you see here? I’m counting 3 cars between the upright posts. That is all that will fit. It looks like there are 6 cars in a row, times 4 rows, or 24 cars tops. Now here is some “hearsay” evidence. This is word of mouth evidence without any documented back-up. I talked to “Doc” Here is a picture of the Hemi Darts outside the
Another myth down. And speaking of myths. For the longest time, everyone said the SC/Ramblers were also done at the
Now there is a problem if you just look at a photo without further investigation. This is a photo of a number of SC/Ramblers. Compare it to the SS/ Though the picture is celebrating an More
So the cars started off as a regular production The cars had a charcoal interior and were equipped with a 390 4 speed, posi rear with 4.44:1 gears, manual steering, manual drum brakes, no undercoating (which was an option, so it was not added to the option list), and no sound deadener (which is carpet sound deadener, not body sound deadener). No radio, no clock. They were not Go-Pac equipped, so no stripe. To start. We have proven it had rocker moldings. Now, what about mirrors, wipers, heater assembly? Spare tire assembly? Wheels and tires? More later. Here are two build sheets posted on net. (The first is from the
(Second sheet from www.performanceamstyle.com) The Sequence Number on a Build sheet is really the Body Number from the door tag. This is the sequential number of Javelins and AMXs coming down the line of the Body Plant. This particular number is R022185 on the first sheet, R022203 on the second sheet, showing they were made the week of The Serial Number is the last 7 digits of the VIN, in this case X213585 (Car #26) for the first sheet, X213589 (Car #30) on the second sheet. Here, they are 4 digits apart. It was a common practice to build the bodies and ship them to the final assembly plant not necessarily in the same order. Therefore, the Body, Sequence, and VIN number were rarely in sequence. The Zone shows “00”. This usually stands for a factory based car, so probably is correct. The car will be shipped via ground “G”. It is an A “2” in seatbelts and a “1” in headrests are standard for 1969. A “9” for engine is a 390, an “M” for No number in “DE”, Dual exhaust. Interesting there is no number because it did come with an exhaust. A “1” in “TGD” shows it had a twin grip differential. Next line: “WE” is Weather Eye, for a heater. The “9“ shows Command Air. This doesn’t make any sense. More research needed. At any rate the heater was not installed on the assembly line and the car received block-of plates. (A large one for the heater motor, another for the heater core, another to take the place for the heater control, a block-off for the defroster ducts (made of cardboard), and lastly a plate that blocks off the opening where the fresh air would flow through the heater core through the cowl vents. I do not know what the “6” is in TS LGR. I haven’t seen this on other The “1” in HDC LDC is for Heavy Duty Cooling. The “1” in HB is Heavy Duty Battery. Under Special Instructions, assembly line workers were told to delete sound deadener (under carpet) and hood insulation, install special 4.44:1 rearend gears, and allows for “deviation of No. 96”. Sure wish I knew what “deviation of No. 96" was-anyone care to guess? By the VIN, the first sheet shown here should be car # 30; the second would be #26. However, I also wish there were other Build Sheets for the other cars. From letter #2 from American Motors: Hood scoop and induction Special Manifold and Carbs Clutch and Bellhousing Modified Cylinder Heads Relocated Modified Suspension Altered Wheelwells It also stated it was not for street use, did not pass emissions, and had no warranty. And noted the car did not conform to emissions standards (could this be the "deviation of 96", meaning no emission controls on the engine)? Being a 4 speed, the car would have a smog pump and all related components. No mention of pistons at all. No mention of a different shifter assembly, or parts. Does modified suspension also mean axles? Or just shocks and springs? Any other deleted items? This could be answered in the third letter from
HMMMM. "One of which you have purchased" Why would Cox get this at his dealership? Could this mean he actually ordered an SS/
What a shocker for the dealers who ordered this car! "Only those items needed to be installed per NHRA specs!" Who would have thought that and read into it when the first letter came out? Dealers were outraged! They sure seemed to have expected the car to come balanced and blueprinted, and maybe even overbored. While at the
Here is a cleaned-up blank:
The sheet designates the car number and if it was all white, or red, white, and blue. Some interesting work: cut and patch floor pan. Know why? More later. How about "set up air package?” What is this? There was also a sheet for the engine.
Luckily, there are two different cars with this sheet. Two items here not previously mentioned: Pistons and Flywheel. I wonder what the big "R" stands for? So there is a missing document. I don't have it, but hopefully someone does. This is the actual order form for the dealers. This form would give the options for color, for instance. It would specifically spell out what comes with the car, and what does not come with the car. It would determine the paint scheme. And most importantly, it would show prices. The original letter showed a price of about $5000, yet it is reported they cost almost $6000. That is a HUGE difference for 1969. Now here is some NHRA update Tech Sheets:
Note the carb type-a
NHRA Technical Specifications
Issued: 1 March 1969 Revised: 4-1-69, 4-17-70, 7-17-70, 4-1-71, 4-26-74 6-24-95, 2-4-05, 12-21-05 WR, 8-3-06 WR Bulletin #: Amer-69 Page 1 of 1 Specifications for the 1969 American Motors engines H.P. Disp. C.R. Ind. Make Model/Transmission Manifold R.R. Lifter Head cc Notes 315 390 10.2 1-4 Cart AFB-4664S/SM 4665S/AUTO 3191736-C 1.6 H 49.10 340 390 12.2 2-4 Holl 4584/SM ONLY 4486228 1.6 H 57.00 2 Notes 2 Super Stock Only Carb size 1562x1562/1250x1313 Deck Piston Type H.P. Disp. Cl Dish/Dome Ht Vol Valves Cam Lift Springs Gasket Head Cast Notes 315 390 .028 FLAT w/trough 13.94cc 2030/1630 425/425 Outer Only .040 3188558 340 390 .038 DOME w/n 3.60cc 2080/1740 425/425 Outer Only .030 558,291,993 A Notes A = "O" rings may be used in the heads or the block if desired. It is not mandatory for a racer to use "O" rings, it is optional. A head gasket must be used in either case. This brings up some questions. First are pistons. It isn't mentioned in earlier letters, but does show up in the engine checklist. I have seen a number of brands mentioned, but my question is: the parts were only supposed to be things the NHRA needed changed. Were pistons one of these? What is really silly to me is for the company to put standard bore pistons in the car, plus no blueprinting/balancing. Then, they send out a notice on how to make free floating pins! Well, the answer is the domed top of the piston.
Here is a better copy of the article, scanned from an original magazine (Super Street Cars, Feb 1970):
Nope, this isn't going to help as they talk about what pistons are in the motor, but not if they came that way. I say this as they also talk about the cam in the engine, and they were definitely NOT changed from factory. (Because there are a number of factors that go in to selecting a cam, to include altitude, so a than a that crazy that they would pull the pan to replace the pistons, then put the stock pan back on. How much more would it cost to put a deep pan and pick-up in?) Anyone with definitive info on the pistons? JE seems to be the piston company verified by most owners. That is verified with this notice found in a period drag publication Drag News:
And please note the carbs again. I have seen everywhere carbs from 600 to 650 cfm. "L" and "R"?). They are 570 cfm, and ONLY came on the SS/ on them. Let's look at an article from Car Craft June 1969 posted by Phat69AMX:
First, there is mention that "most" of the cars were sold to dealers. I wonder how many were sold to a private individual, and how they found out about it? The prototype car originally ran an R4B and The stock horsepower for a 1969 390 engine was 315 hp. The magazine mentioned that after some more tweaks, to include the crossram, they were able to get ANOTHER 28 horsepower from the car. Let's see, that equals 343hp, yet the car was rated for 340-and this does not include the horsepower increase with the R4B, etc. Wonder what the real horsepower on the prototype was? Mentions "That's all there will be.” How did they know? Here is a part that bothers me. There is documentation that shows the beginning VIN sequence. There is also mention the names of the owners will be sent to the NHRA for certification, or homologation. But where does it say there will be no more made? And they only had to send 50 names and VINs to the NHRA for certification, why would they have to send other names once the car was homologated? There is no documentation that I have seen or heard of that says "this batch, and no more." Remember the mention of the Hurst Hemi Dart? They made 50, then later made 30 more. Hmmmm. Original parts and pieces are available from JE Forged 12.25:1 pistons. Someone must have a program to see hp ratings with the various parts on the car. Total weight 3025 pounds. Didn't it weigh about 3200 when new? This post is locked. Any comments? Please post here:
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The Trans Am homologation numbers for '70 break down like this:
1/250th total of 1969 production for company, or a minimum of 2500 (whichever is greater)
8200 chevy
7000 ford
2800 dodge
2500 AMC and Plymouth
This is from SCCA and quoted in a 1970 magazine. I didn't write down the source, but those are the numbers listed. I haven't verified them by back-checking with 1969 production figures.
So, AMC had to make 2500 1970 Donohue Javelins as a minimum.
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Tom, I know I pulled that out of a 69-70 magazine. I do not quote internet posts. I think you're misunderstanding? I said:
1/250th total of 1969 production for company, or a minimum of 2500 (whichever is greater)
It's for the company (or division) and not the car model. So, chevy would be 1/250 (or 2500 min) 1969 production of chevrolet, not camaro. And AMC would be by total AMCs made, not javelin.
I don't know 1969 AMC production offhand, but I know it wasn't 500k; therefore, they had to build 2500 min per what I said, and this is what they did (2501)
I have 500++ vintage magazines so I'm not going to search for my source- I should've written it down but am sure it came from home as it is written on a notepad from there and I remember running across the figures and writing it down.
I looked in my Trans Am hardback book and they say 2500 min.
Feb 1970 Car Life magazine said 2500 or 1/250 but did not give specific breakdowns. So, this can be checked if anyone wants to search for 1969 chevy, ford... production.
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I wish I had your magazine collection - I'd find a service to scan and catalog/index the articles, esp anything with the key words AMC, etc. - and put it online.
Steve I think you have posted that info before - it sure looks familiar -
Tom has some production numbers here - and I have some others, just haven't made time to get it posted yet. Once I get home I get lazy -
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