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    Posted: Aug/11/2018 at 9:00pm
I recently had a new windshield installed in my Scrambler with new clips and a new gasket by a "professional" $225 later (don't laugh its NY). He couldnt get the P/S vertical molding to sit flush so he proceeded to dent it and glue it on with eurethane. I don't want to discuss his mistakes I just want to know any experiences with Scrambler windshield installation because Im going to re-do it myself. It seems that over and over anything I farm out ends in a disaster. I don't care if I do it 5 times I want it right.

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I install the gasket on the glass, and hold it in place with masking tape. Then soap the groove that goes on the pinch weld with some dish soap. Insert a piece of nylon sash cord in the rubber groove and put the windshield in place on the outside of the frame. As a helper pushes it in from outside, you are inside pulling the sash cord to peel the rubber over the pinch weld. I like to have one of these tools at hand: https://www.homedepot.com/p/Malco-SideSwiper-Siding-Removal-Tool-SRT2/100098527
It is a vinyl siding removal tool and only costs a nominal amount. If the rubber gets stuck, that tool will slide in and grab it to get it going properly again. After it is in, you can slide it around and get it centered. That is why I don't put any sealant on it. I recently had one professionally done with new glass and they didn't put sealer on it, either. If it leaks later or if you want it sealed, you can use a tube of flowable sealer and put it under the rubber.
After it is done and centered, the trim should slip in.
With a helper or two, it is not too  hard to do. I had one done professionally because I wanted new glass and they provided the glass and installed it for about the same price a piece of glass would cost me delivered. Glass was $250 plus $150 delivery if I bought one and the glass shop did it, tax and all, for $407. They did a perfect job.


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Why Ramblers? Chicks dig 'em. Whatever it is, I can take it apart.
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I'm a professional.  I've installed rubber gasket windshields in everything from a 55 Chevy wrap around, to a Kenworth  split front windshield.

I done it without sealant and with.
Noticed no big difference in being able to slide the glass around a little to center it with or without the sealant.  
It is messier using the sealant,  but you just wipe the rope off as it comes to hand,  and clean up after the job is done.

I have noticed the none sealant jobs did have a greater occurance of small leaks,  that you might,  or might not, be able to stop later with sealant.

Leaks are like a lot of other car problems,  it better to do it right in the first place,  than to try to stop it later with a patch job.

I know why a lot of "professionals " don't use the sealant first,  it's faster, and there's no clean up later.
Time is uppermost in their world, get the job done and on to the next job.

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The TSM for the 64 Ambassador calls for sealant at the top dead center. My factory installed windshield did have that in place about 18" long. I have seen several of the big cars with water damaged headliners in replacement windshield that did not have the sealant. Interesting to note that the factory sealant/adhesive was still flexible 42 years later.
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I installed gasketed windshields for almost 30 years. Never used sealant and never had one to leak.
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I've installed them for 45 years,  probably just a few hundred, but to tell the truth, a few did leak.
But most of the windshields I replaced were because of a serious collision, with lots of body and chassis damage, sometimes breaking the windshield just because of chassis flex, not from a direct impact.

Most that I remember that did leak came back later with the leak. 
 Because I usually tested a windshield just after I installed it, when I had time.

But a few did slip past, and came back later with small leaks, usually near the corners.  So that's where I began to pay particular attention to and add sealant.

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Since I am a complete armature/ shade tree I just read what the TSM tells me to do. Why I am current on the topic is that I am ready to install my 64' Ambo windshield next weekend. My Buddy who is a pro installer will lead the install and I am going to assist.

With the custom fabric I had produced for the wagon head liner I used as heck don't want to risk water pushing through at highway speeds.
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My car is mostly a cruise night/drag car it will never be driven in the rain (maybe trailered), I discovered that the installer didn't seat the windshield on the drivers side it was out 1/8". Im getting another new gasket this week and Im going to attempt it myself. I will see how it goes if I need sealant or not. There are some good videos on youtube on how to install a Mustang windshield, its very similar. It does seem everyone has their own sealing methods.
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Did a test install with a new gasket dry and the drivers side still sticks out 1/8 inch. The pinch weld is completely clean and repainted, new clip's and a second new gasket. Could the windshield be formed incorrectly? It is a brand new Pilkington glass windshield. This is very frustrating.
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Wasn't aware anyone was still making new windshields for the Americans 64-69.

Does it have any numbers on it that could give any clues as to when and where it was made ?
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