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If an attaching bolt gets stripped out, it's possible to make a stud with a nut on it like this:


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How I adjust the bands on my rebuilt units '1/4 turn tight':



My '67-'73 Rebel Matador Chilton's Manual says to use a 1/4" gauge block and tighten the adjusting bolt to 9 inch pounds ('67, or 10 inch pounds '68-'71)

IMO, this is one of those things where saying it and doing it are two different things.

What do I do? I put a 1/4" thick allen wrench in there for my 'gauge block' then I simply 'snug up' the adjusting stud 'finger tight' -until I can 'feel' the band grab onto the clutch drum (this is a spongy feeling when using a large screwdriver to tighten the adjusting stud) -snug the adjuster stud with the gauge block in there, make a mental note of where it is, then remove the gauge block and turn the adjuster stud one quarter of a turn 'tighter'...

From here:



...to there, in the pic below; one quarter turn tight. Very simple, and tighten the locknut right there.



It's not 'rocket science'. It doesn't make the band seem to drag on the clutch drum any more at all. The only difference is that the trans will feel slightly more firm when it shifts gears.




Edited by amcenthusiast - Sep/12/2018 at 6:44am
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Adjusting rear band:

This band also 'feels mushy' when one tightens down the band adjusting stud. I just use a little wrench to tighten the band until it feels 'snug' -just 'finger tight, with two fingers like this...

...then the Chilton's Manual says to back off the adjusting screw 1 and 1/4 turns. So I just back off one full turn instead (so it's set 1/4 turn tight) I cinch down the lock nut right there and call it 'done'.

In my experience, adjusting the bands this way, the bands never wear out. (mine never do) It only makes this transmission's shift points feel more firm.

(I've never found a worn out band inside one of these AM Warner Gear automatic transmissions, iron case or aluminum case; they seem to 'last forever')




Edited by amcenthusiast - Jun/30/2018 at 11:25pm
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After all the guts are installed into the main case, it's important to make sure the oil pan fits correctly on these older Flashomatic and Shift Command AM automatics.

The oil pan on these iron case units does more than hold fluid; on the mid sixties Flashomatics it hold the tubes in correctly and keeps the filter snuggled onto the valve body.

My pan was abused so I used 'rolled up bits' of masking tape to identify the clearance issues like this:



The stock pan has a dimple there. Mine was 'mashed in' so I re-dimpled it -had to; so the pan gasket will cinch down correctly.



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The mid sixties Flashomatics have a seemingly unimportant tab spot welded into the pan. These typically get bent when cleaning the pan.



Here's looking in through the trans fluid filler tube hole; I put a mini flashlight inside my unit and took a picture to show how the tab helps to hold one of the tubes into the control valve assembly correctly:



Re-bend the tab until you can 'feel it touch' there when you bolt on the pan...
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Pics of XRV8 RP rebuilt unit:








Edited by amcenthusiast - Jul/19/2018 at 7:29pm
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.003" min. to .005" max clearance specification for torque converter pilot button.
Install with lithium grease in the TC's pilot button hole:



FMX high stall torque converter with custom made pilot button bolted to '65 solid main 327 Rambler V8:


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Another thing I really like about these AM Warner Gear units is that they can be installed like a manual transmission. -Just make sure to 'clock the oil pump' gear inside the stator to the pump drive on the TC. Pics of final install:






Edited by amcenthusiast - Feb/06/2020 at 7:46pm
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Final install? = Yeah right; Dream on!

This has truly been a challenge to swap in the FMX high stall torque converter.

Apparently the Rambler V8 automatic bellhousing is about 1/8" shorter than a Ford FMX bell, so the pump drive engagement, the stator support tube and the input shaft all needed slight modifications.

Pump drive getting shortened 1/8":










Edited by amcenthusiast - Jun/16/2018 at 6:07pm
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It was absolutely necessary to shorten the FMX's stator support tube 1/8":



The input shaft splines are also lengthened (rearward) 1/8" to work with the 1/8" shorter Rambler V8 bellhousing:




Edited by amcenthusiast - Jun/16/2018 at 6:17pm
443 XRV8 Gremlin YouTube video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?reload=9&v=2DmFOKRuzUc
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