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We now have a driveable mid-engined '65 Rambler V8 powered '69 AMC Rebel.

Edited out these pictures today on 2-16-2020 not to make the mid-engined AMX/3 pictures on Google image gallery look bad.




Edited by amcenthusiast - Feb/06/2020 at 7:33pm
443 XRV8 Gremlin YouTube video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?reload=9&v=2DmFOKRuzUc
XRV8 Race Parts website: http://amcramblermarlin.1colony.com/
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote g-man Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Mar/19/2018 at 12:08pm
Holy Schnikes!!! 
That is quite a sight to see!
That will be the first AMC (that I know of) that you could manually adjust the timing while you drive the car...
I am looking forward to this getting finished.

g-man

PS Are you going to put anything under the hood?
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Thats so cool keep up the good workThumbs Up
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Crazy man, crazy!

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Ok, you got me. I am an old school stock from the factory Rambler guy, but a car you can check the oil while changing your tunes awesome! I did’nt think I would like the slammed look, I don’t. I love ❤️ it!!! Rambler on my friend!

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Fun comments; thanks.

-the initial plan was to fabricate simple ducting to vent radiator heat up & out through the front portion of the hood but so far there are no noticeable cooling issues.

...crazy, yes... and when I woke up this morning and looked out the window there was a man trying to take pictures of it!

I think these Rebels lend themselves to a lowered look because their flat sided body style? -but also the very short driveshaft, not having as much articulation, has much to do with determining the ride

-problem with having the car this low; with the slightest amount of wheelspin, it'll dig a hole in the gravel driveway then drag the frame ...so this afternoon after work I put cut down coils on the back and now it sits level... 


Edited by amcenthusiast - Feb/05/2020 at 10:46pm
443 XRV8 Gremlin YouTube video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?reload=9&v=2DmFOKRuzUc
XRV8 Race Parts website: http://amcramblermarlin.1colony.com/
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'69 AMC Rebel Ambassador front upper control arm bushings:

TRW pn#12291A :


FCRC Machine aka 'Rare Parts' pn#15102

http://fcrcmachine.com/rare-parts-front-upper-control-arm-bushings-1969-amc-ambassador-rebel-15102/




...found the vintage TRW pair on eBay and bought them for a sample.

The FCRC Rare Parts version is an excellent reproduction, matching the superior quality of the good ol' vintage TRW bushings.

I also purchased a set of (4) front upper control arm bushings (for only about $14 -low cost/low risk) for '69 Dodge Coronet because they look almost identical to these bushings made for our '69 AMC full size cars... they use the same size mounting bolts but are slightly smaller in width and diameter. I was able to cut the shells on my pre-existing '69 Rebel bushings and press in the Mopar bushings -if only to prove to myself it could be doable... since the Coronet bushings are also slightly less wide, they would need washers to make up for the difference in width also...

I installed the Rare Parts bushings at last, not wanting to mess with it anymore in the near future.
443 XRV8 Gremlin YouTube video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?reload=9&v=2DmFOKRuzUc
XRV8 Race Parts website: http://amcramblermarlin.1colony.com/
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So it was next to impossible to slide a floor jack under the car with it sitting on the bumpstops... which basically made it unservicable... and I can't have it like that!

But the main point of lowering the suspension is to accommodate the short driveshaft from the three foot engine setback -to get the driveshaft and pinion angles 'correct'.

The stock rear suspension extension, with stock Rebel shock absorbers had too much travel and the driveshaft u-joints would bind.

So I not only needed shorter coil springs to get the driveshaft angle right, I needed a way to limit rear axle extension also. I mulled over the idea of extending the lower shock mounts but decided to this instead:

Since the suspension needs to be 'lowered' & I'm using cut coils with stock spring rates (it-is-what-it-is) I'd like it to have increased dampening to reduce potential for 'bottoming out'.

Hence, I'm using Ford F150 pickup truck shock absorbers which have a similar 'bayonet' upper and 'eyelet' style lower mounts* -to fit the stock type Rebel mounts. (*the F150 lower shock eyelets are a metric size and slightly smaller in diameter, so I had to press them out, then press the Rebel shock sleeves in... not a simple bolt on task)

...to make all four corners have the same dampening, I'm using the same oversized shocks on all four corners. (these are huge 'truck shocks' which dwarf the the stock type Rebel shock absorbers)

Here's a pic underneath the rear of the car, which also shows the Jeep CJ gas tank (keepin' it all AMC the best I can) 3/8 fuel line and 72 GPH @ 5 psi. electric fuel pump. -the new tank and fuel lines are specifically positioned and customized for this lowered chassis application -not to rub or drag on the ground when/if the car needs to negotiate a steep driveway or ramp etc. etc.

No paint work done on this car yet; only 'Ospho'/phosphoric acid type iron oxide neutralizer carefully brushed on everywhere/anywhere there was any visible rust formation.

Edited today 2-6-2020 to chop this picture out so AMX/3 pictures on Google image gallery are not marred by the appearance of my rough looking project car.



Edited by amcenthusiast - Feb/06/2020 at 7:36pm
443 XRV8 Gremlin YouTube video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?reload=9&v=2DmFOKRuzUc
XRV8 Race Parts website: http://amcramblermarlin.1colony.com/
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Instead of destroying the stock upper rear shock mounts, I cut off the cover tubes so the oversize shocks could poke up through the pre-existing upper shock mount areas. (how to say it right)

The new rear upper shock mounts are welded in to the stock upper shock mount unibody frame stamping so they keep the strength needed to the do their job.

Here's a pic looking inside the trunk, showing the fabricated upper mounts, custom gas tank, trunk mount battery & gutted trunklid (trunklid is now 15 lbs lighter... the car doesn't need a cow-resistant trunk lid anymore)

Edited today 2-6-2020 to remove this pic so mid-engined AMC picture gallery is not weighed down by my rough project car pictures.


Edited by amcenthusiast - Feb/06/2020 at 7:37pm
443 XRV8 Gremlin YouTube video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?reload=9&v=2DmFOKRuzUc
XRV8 Race Parts website: http://amcramblermarlin.1colony.com/
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Here's a pic showing how the new oversize shocks fit up through the pre-existing shock mount holes:

Took out this pic for the same reason; so the mid-engined AMX/3 cars look better on Google image gallery.

(this Rebel looks much better now anyway, all painted and tidied up underneath)


Edited by amcenthusiast - Feb/06/2020 at 7:40pm
443 XRV8 Gremlin YouTube video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?reload=9&v=2DmFOKRuzUc
XRV8 Race Parts website: http://amcramblermarlin.1colony.com/
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