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farna
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Posted: Jun/01/2012 at 4:36pm |
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59 six would be an AMC 15.
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Posted: Jun/01/2012 at 5:39pm |
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Yeah, that's pretty much what all things have pointed to. Hopefully Wrambler gets back to me with good news. We're just gettin into our good weather up here in Oregon and it's breakin my heart that my baby is still on jackstands:-(
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Posted: Jun/02/2012 at 6:44am |
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There's a club up there that can help you find an axle. Rose City Rambler Club.
http://www.amcrc.com/RC/index.html Mark in on the other coast, and has an AMC 20 axle -- you need an AMC 15. |
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Posted: Jun/08/2012 at 1:56am |
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Keeping my AMC 15 housing, is it possible to swap out the carrier and use different axles. I'm still having a hard time finding a replacement for the original....
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Posted: Jun/08/2012 at 8:48am |
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Kinda expensive, but it's probably possible that you could have Moser or somebody make you custom axle shafts for it.
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'66 Marlin, 327/Shift-Command
'64 Rambler Classic 550, 401/727 '65 Rambler Classic 770 Cross Country, 232/Flash-O-Matic '85 Grand Wagoneer, 360/727, 4" lift '66 Marlin, 327/T10 (parts car) |
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Posted: Jun/08/2012 at 10:17am |
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In a 64 Classic many years ago I took out an AMC 15 and put in a 20. Both had 9" brakes and I encountered no problems. But I don't know if a 59 and a 64 are interchangeable. I've since put one in with 10" brakes so will need to get rid of the one with 9" brakes. Sad to do it as IIRC I had just spent $100 a piece for new drums.
There's a guy A.M. Campbell in Vancouver who took over from a New Zealander (Norgra Parts) who may have what you need. Can't find his number but not that far from Oregon. |
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Posted: Jun/08/2012 at 10:34am |
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In the late 50s AMC used two different suppliers, and the axle shaft splines to the differential are different. THAT is the problem. Moser can indeed make a one-piece axle hub for you, about $300 for a pair. You can change the differential along with both axles and keep your housing, but then you have to set up the pinion gear depth to match the ring gear or you'll quickly wear the gears and create a howling sound. So it's not a simple bolt-in. The ring and pinion must be a matched set also. You'd be better off to change the entire rear axle. The 63-66 Classic axle should fit as well as 56-62 big Rambler axles. You will have to swap over the torque tube if you use a 62-66 axle. I'm pretty sure the splines on the pinion gears are all the same for interchangeability, AMC just neglected to specify the splines for the inner axle shaft ends. I'm fairly certain the hub ends are all the same. My guess is they figured the inner end wouldn't matter, the hub and torque tubes are the things that sometimes get replaced, and dealers could get the correct axle shaft for warranty work easy enough -- it's just not so easy 44 years later.
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Posted: Jun/10/2012 at 12:50am |
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Couldn't find any info on AM Campbell, but through the BC AMC club's site I found a good list of parts vendors. Gonna look there and contact Moser as well. Farna-So the torque tubes were used up to 66?
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Posted: Jun/10/2012 at 2:44pm |
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YES, only in big cars (Ambassador/Classic/Marlin... and 66 only Rebel, which was just a fancy Classic hardtop). The 63-66 TT is different than the 56-61. 62 is sort of up in the air -- it appears to be different from the earlier one, sort of like the 63-66 but with a different shaped front tube/transmission connection. Late model 62s may have the same connection as 63-66 models. The AMC 20 used behind V-8s and 232 sixes is the same no matter what the tube/trans connection is like.
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Posted: Jun/10/2012 at 3:38pm |
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I definitely want to retain as much of my car's original features as possible. My car is survivor in impecible shape. She fires right up and cruises down the highway quite nicely. As for hot rodding it, maybe down the road I'll add beef up the motor/trans, or do a swap for a period correct V8, but for now my 196 runs like a champ and gets decent gas mileage to boot!
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