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    Posted: May/14/2018 at 6:42pm
I have a Borg Warner M12 and would like to replace the stock shifter with a ratcheting shifter. Which one would you guys suggest?
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Billd has a mega shifter that he wants to sell... and i had installed one on my 73 Javelin and used it for a while.

Mega shifters are great, but it gets getting use to, as it is more complex in function than a stock shifter.


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote billd Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May/14/2018 at 8:34pm
Not really nice for a street car unless setup and adjusted properly.

I already sold mine - in fact it hadn't been out of the car even a week and it was spoken for.

Just my opinion - not sure they are worth it on a BW - but then you have the gee-whiz, whiz-bang, golly that's cool factor working with 'em.
IMO, and my opinion is worth what you paid - it's more for a built automatic that has true first and second gears and you shift it manually.
That's just my thinking. 
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I remember Ken Parkman did it for some one, and from what he said,its ALOT of aggrievation, and He pretty much said never again... Unless it's made for a specific transmission, I would just keep the stock shifter. I am not really a fan of anything B&M. (I have the one Hurst autostick, and I am using it in my drag car)..
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I modified the stock shifter to work better with a full manual valve body. You may have to do a bit of adaptation to get the aftermarket shifter to work with the BW trans.
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dunno about M12, but M35, the spacing between P and the other gear detents was not the same. torqueflite they're all equal-spaced, but not the little Borg Warner. you can probably guess how i figured that out.

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Thank you for all of the advice. I think Iā€™m going to skip this modification and leave the stock shifter in place. šŸ‘šŸ»
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I had a B&M ratchet shifter in my Jeep. It wore out but not until it was 30 years old.
Why Ramblers? Chicks dig 'em. Whatever it is, I can take it apart.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote billd Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May/15/2018 at 7:55pm
Originally posted by tomj tomj wrote:

dunno about M12, but M35, the spacing between P and the other gear detents was not the same. torqueflite they're all equal-spaced, but not the little Borg Warner. you can probably guess how i figured that out.


I'm still guessing.......... give me a little while...........  LOL
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Ken_Parkman Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May/16/2018 at 9:29am
Yeah it was a huge pain in the h***.

The guy had some ratchet shifter installed by a generic bolt together mechanic and it did not work. The brackets do not fit and the detent spacing is not right, so it was a dogs breakfast. He kept asking me to fix it and I kept saying no, use a stock shifter, and he finally wore me down. I kept saying you cannot pay someone to re-engineer something not designed to fit as the hours and cost is crazy. Things like that you have to do yourself, or be filthy rich.

So I had to re-route the cable, fabricate a new cable bracket, pull the tranny apart (valve body had to come out), calculate a new lever radius, make a new lever, put it back together, then do it all over again cause it was just not quite right first try.

In the end it seemed to work well and I hope it still does. He has not been back since I think the cost of that really peed him off. It took a lot of hours.
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