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    Posted: Jun/30/2019 at 5:42pm
Hello, friends. 
I have Rambler Classic 1964 with 232 engine.
Made in Brussel!!

I can not find information on the model of the transmission

In the automatic a lot of information - for manual - minimal
Now I use non-original transmission, but I want to fix it.

Help me please)

ps: sorry for bad English

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Can you post a photo of the transmission? US models used a Borg-Warner T-96 or T-86 three speed. The Belgian Ramblers may have used something else. The Borg-Warner transmissions usually have the number cast into the casing though, which leads me to believe the Belgian Rambler may have a Renault (truck?) transmission or some other European sourced transmission (ZF??) .
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Can't upload photos
maybe it's a browser error((
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You have to have so many posts before you can post photos. Keeps the spammers and short timers out.  It's not that many though... and you can always post links to other photo sites.

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https://yadi.sk/i/nHC7NfD1-23gtw

https://yadi.sk/i/4Stu9IzDQ1Wk4g

Photos on Yandex cloud service
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That is not a Borg-Warner T-96 or T-86.   It looks like a much more sophisticated transmission.  Joe
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Just as I feared,  that is a European sourced transmission.  It's either a Renault or ZF trans, I suspect a ZF from the looks. With the stamped rear crossmember it looks stock. Contact these guys, they should have some info for you. Is it a three or four speed? From what little I can find on the Rambler-Renault they had a four speed, may have been on column or floor. There are other Euro cars with Columbia four speeds, and at least Asian vehicles with column five speeds.

https://m.facebook.com/pages/category/Nonprofit-Organization/Renault-Rambler-club-de-France-310198825690068/





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Wow, guys - this gearbox is a GAZ! - Is a product of the dark Soviet genius))  - not original! I installed it!
I'm trying to find the original transmission.
Maybe it's lost in translate))

https://yadi.sk/i/WU1T7oFHC7h70A


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Sorry, just missed it somehow! I see in your original post you mention you currently have a non-original transmission.

So you must have a non-original rear axle. Looking at your photos again (https://yadi.sk/i/nHC7NfD1-23gtw), I see you have a different rear axle and what looks like a ladder bar setup. The only problem with going back to an original transmission is that you would still have the non-original rear axle and driveshaft setup. Unless you plan on going back to an original rear axle with torque-tube and original trans I don't see the point. The parts are heavy and would be costly to send from the US or Canada. Is the GAZ gearbox failing?

Is the rear axle and suspension setup in your photo original to the Rambler-Renault? They had a European sourced four speed transmission, so they must have done something different with the rear axle or made an adapter for the torque tube. We're just not familiar with the changes Renault made to the Rambler they assembled.
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Yes. I got it without a gearbox and I installed the one that matched the engine torque. 
The rear axle and driveshaft were included with the car. I don't know about their originality.

The fact that the original auto parts for Rambler 64  expensive, (especially shipping across the ocean) I have already understood((

GAZ transmission works fine, but the Soviet part in the AMC - not true))
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