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To paint or not to paint...???

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Topic: To paint or not to paint...???
Posted By: amx73
Subject: To paint or not to paint...???
Date Posted: May/10/2019 at 6:57am

This car was painted in the late 90’s. I bought it in 2004, sold it in 2011, bought it back in 2016...

It’s got a lot of chips, door dings, deep scratches but, overall the paint has held up really well. It was not an original car when I bought it. Always been a “hot rod” and I’m planning on keeping it that way. 

I am up in the air about getting it painted. The cost, choosing the right person for the job, and how nice do I really want it? Maybe I just get the dings and scratches fixed, and have it cut and buffed??? I need some advice and direction. 

I’ve owned tons of AMC’s(and a http://s1339.photobucket.com/user/rockdoktor/media/37493EA7-C966-4201-9539-D6DA71798F94_zpsnhwbooba.jpeg.html" rel="nofollow"> few http://s1339.photobucket.com/user/rockdoktor/media/1F24E808-017F-4B45-9B17-6973CE05D5DA_zpsxxihdegg.jpeg.html" rel="nofollow"> other makes) but, http://s1339.photobucket.com/user/rockdoktor/media/19D6BF81-73E6-4261-8DF7-E716BFD30C79_zps4qood3hq.jpeg.html" rel="nofollow"> have never had any of them painted.
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Red means run son, numbers add up to nothin'!



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Posted By: 304-dude
Date Posted: May/10/2019 at 7:13am
IMO you can touch up the noticable chips and scratches, enough not to be so noticable, if happy with overall looks. Though some imperfections will stand out more on a near perfect paint than a nicely worn (in a good way) paint.

For a daily driver dont sweat it until you start picking at the details.

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71 Javelin SST body
390 69 crank, 70 block & heads
NASCAR SB2 rods & pistons
78 Jeep TH400 w/ 2.76 Low
50/50 Ford-AMC Suspension
79 F150 rear & 8.8 axles
Ford Racing 3.25 gears & 9" /w Detroit locker


Posted By: Ollie
Date Posted: May/10/2019 at 8:04am
Depends on how much you want to spend on the car. It doesn't look that bad in the pics.

It is a hard color to match when spot painting, but with today's technology of matching that exact color and a good painter it can come out pretty good. 

Having AMC Fun,
Ollie


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1966 American Convertible -- "The Rambler"..SOLD
1974 Postal Jeep -- "Rapid Delivery"...SOLD
1969 Rambler 220 post car--"Road Warrior"
1989 Jeep Comanche Pioneer, 4.0L, auto, 2wd


Posted By: amx73
Date Posted: May/10/2019 at 9:08am
Originally posted by Ollie Ollie wrote:

Depends on how much you want to spend on the car. It doesn't look that bad in the pics.

It is a hard color to match when spot painting, but with today's technology of matching that exact color and a good painter it can come out pretty good. 

Having AMC Fun,
Ollie

I talked to a few body guys, and some other car guys and get numbers anywhere from $6-10k to repaint the whole car. If I could get all the dings and chips fixed, and have it buffed for $2-2.5k it might suit my needs and budget. This car was never original, and maybe some day it will get restored to its original glory!! Lol

My plan is to forge ahead with my original trans am pro touring build on this car.

401(bored .020 over Ross pistons, Molnar rods, Howard’s cam, Edelbrock heads and air gap, EZ EFI fuel injection, MSD ignition, Doug’s headers, Canton road race oil pan)

TCI 200r4 trans and converter

WSC coil overs, heavy duty front and rear sway bars. The “500” steering box, quick ratio pump.

Wilwood front brakes, and master, Scarbird rear discs.

Model 20 rear, Moser axels, 4.10 gears, posi


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Red means run son, numbers add up to nothin'!


Posted By: amxdreamer
Date Posted: May/10/2019 at 11:33am
Talk to some car lots, up here there are a couple of mobile paint touch up guys that paint bumper corners etc. They do great color matching and are quite inexpensive as they have little overhead working out of a van. Do a paint correction on the car first to deal with scratches and see how she looks.

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Tony
Vancouver, BC
1970 AMX
1972 Badassador
AMO#10333


Posted By: tom999q
Date Posted: May/13/2019 at 9:32pm
Wax it and get in and drive it. 


Posted By: PHAT69AMX
Date Posted: May/14/2019 at 2:53pm
Everybody is different, as it should be, I enjoyed driving my AMX and taking it to the drag strip on tune and test nights and making passes and leaving it parked out side the Wings place on the way home, all without worry.  It was structurally and mechanically sound and solid and reliable.  It didn't have any rust through holes, did have those fixed and blend painted to be presentable, but found what i liked about owning one was driving it and running it down the track.  To me paint and body cost a whole lot, is very "fragile", causes worry, and when considering it, quite a few "body shop jail" stories scared me out of it.  I'd want a WRITTEN AGREEMENT mainly nailing down a timeframe and completion date with significant "clauses" if it was NOT completed by the agreed to date.  Agree with tom999q, "Wax it and get in and Drive It !"  And I guess it somewhat depends on if it hopefully will be climate controlled garage kept, which makes a huge difference in it's "tolerance" for continuing on un-restored.

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Posted By: amx73
Date Posted: May/14/2019 at 3:43pm
Originally posted by PHAT69AMX PHAT69AMX wrote:

Everybody is different, as it should be, I enjoyed driving my AMX and taking it to the drag strip on tune and test nights and making passes and leaving it parked out side the Wings place on the way home, all without worry.  It was structurally and mechanically sound and solid and reliable.  It didn't have any rust through holes, did have those fixed and blend painted to be presentable, but found what i liked about owning one was driving it and running it down the track.  To me paint and body cost a whole lot, is very "fragile", causes worry, and when considering it, quite a few "body shop jail" stories scared me out of it.  I'd want a WRITTEN AGREEMENT mainly nailing down a timeframe and completion date with significant "clauses" if it was NOT completed by the agreed to date.  Agree with tom999q, "Wax it and get in and Drive It !"  And I guess it somewhat depends on if it hopefully will be climate controlled garage kept, which makes a huge difference in it's "tolerance" for continuing on un-restored.

I feel the same way about it. I talked to a few local body shops. One said they wouldn’t be able to take the car for at least a year. The other is right down the street from where I work. Could check on the car daily. And that shop I know the owner, and a friend of mine has had several cars painted by them. I have also heard the horror stories as well. And I’m not looking forward to the stress and anxiety of fresh paint. The door ding in the pics was done by my 4 year old!! Lol! But, the owner of the shop down the street said he would come to my house one night and look the car over. Ideally if I could get the dings fixed and blended without spending to much money, that’s what I would like to do.


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Red means run son, numbers add up to nothin'!


Posted By: mbwicz
Date Posted: May/15/2019 at 10:42am
I like the minilites on the car, it has a nice vibe.

Another thing you need to worry about with the car is if you get it painted, will it be so nice that you won't want to drive it?

Having a friend come by and look at it will be good. He may be good at blending, so maybe you just color over the stone chips and door ding.

It must mean something to buy it back, make sure you enjoy it!

have fun,
Mike


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1970 AMX, one step forward, one step back. Both steps cost time and money.


Posted By: V8Mart
Date Posted: Jun/21/2019 at 3:10pm
luckily for me, the patina look is hot right now


Posted By: LakesideRamblin
Date Posted: Jun/21/2019 at 3:35pm
My 69 Rambler was a project - looked nothing like your beauty.  It had some holes and bondo, and other creativity in it.  I wanted it done once and right so I popped for the full monte.  Took it down to the skivees and had all the metal work done and painted a two stage paint.  Lot's of $ - but I now know what I have and it's one and done.  I found the guys that I think are the best in town and they only work on 3-4 cars at a time.  4 total months from start to finish.

Regarding your car, it looks very nice.  I would touch up and cut and buff.  It will be awesome.  Then drive it like the wind!


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LakesideRamblin
69 Rambler 360
73 Javelin 360
"If you could kick the person in the pants responsible for most of your trouble, you wouldn't sit for a month." T. Roosevelt


Posted By: 990V8
Date Posted: Jun/28/2019 at 3:48am
Unless you want a show car, I tend towards not painting.
Dead money. It won't drive any better.
And when you want to work on it, you have to use fender guards.
Every little scratch will be an upset.
 
Was once in the TR Register (Triumph TR2 thru-6). There was a chap had a well-worn TR3 he used a lot, then he spent a ton of time and money on a restoration. 
I recall him saying afterwards that he enjoyed the car much more before it was restored.
 
If it were just getting the dings done, I'd deal with that surface rust myself. Rust killer, high-zinc primer. Seen too many cars where the rust came back under a shiny paint job.
 
Ivor
 


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63 Canadian Ambo 990 V8 327
74 LandRover Lightweight V8 SIII
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