1977 AMC Pacer 3.8L engine mount * Need L&R
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Topic: 1977 AMC Pacer 3.8L engine mount * Need L&R
Posted By: Article Indefini
Subject: 1977 AMC Pacer 3.8L engine mount * Need L&R
Date Posted: Apr/13/2019 at 6:07pm
| Trying to help a friend with his 1977 Pacer 3.8L project. It looks like the Left & Right engine mounts that we need are not that easy to find (part #322-6964 and #322-6965). If anyone has leads or an extra set in his garage, that would be awesome. In advance thank you for your tips and responses! J.Jacques |
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Posted By: tomj
Date Posted: Apr/13/2019 at 10:14pm
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rockauto.com claims to have them. cheap ones, in both senses of the word... ------------- 1960 Rambler Super two-door wagon, OHV auto 1961 Roadster American, 195.6 OHV, T5 http://www.ramblerLore.com |
Posted By: Article Indefini
Date Posted: Apr/14/2019 at 1:13am
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Thank you for your help. Unfortunately I checked rockauto already and these motor mounts are not the ones I am looking for. Best J.Jacques
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Posted By: REBEL_BOB
Date Posted: Apr/14/2019 at 8:53am
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Galvins has the right one part #01_6994 there phone #209-365-6315 there the oval insert the u put in your mount bracket $19 good people give them a call in the left coast OR. ------------- THANKS FROM REBEL_BOB |
Posted By: Article Indefini
Date Posted: Apr/14/2019 at 11:59am
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That's a start. Our mounts collapsed and I am afraid the whole thing needs to be replaced, on the L & R... but I will call them. Thank you very much and I will keep you posted. Best JJ |
Posted By: tomj
Date Posted: Apr/14/2019 at 11:42pm
sad that it's as suspected. can't trust anyone any more! so many parts listings are like that today. sorry. ------------- 1960 Rambler Super two-door wagon, OHV auto 1961 Roadster American, 195.6 OHV, T5 http://www.ramblerLore.com |
Article Indefini wrote:Posted By: pacerman
Date Posted: Apr/15/2019 at 12:45pm
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The Facebook Pacer page has some knowledgeable Pacer people there who may have a parts source for you. Joe ------------- Happiness is making something out of nothing. |
Posted By: Article Indefini
Date Posted: Apr/15/2019 at 1:43pm
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Thank you Joe. I already reached out some members and hope I will find the parts I am looking for. Apparently, these parts are not easy to find! :) |
Posted By: FSJunkie
Date Posted: Apr/17/2019 at 2:33am
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You've got to be kidding. That's a load of malarkey. Here they are. These are the mounts I bought for the 232 in my 1977 Hornet about four years ago and they are the same mounts used by just about all AMC sixes, including in the Pacer. Your Pacer. https://www.napaonline.com/en/p/BK_6021162" rel="nofollow - https://www.napaonline.com/en/p/BK_6021162 Print it out and give the page to the counter sales associate. Order two because they are the same part left and right. You will probably have to wait a few days to get them. This is one of the easier parts to find for a Pacer. I suggest improving your search skills by an order of magnitude. ------------- 1955 Packard 1966 Marlin 1972 Wagoneer 1973 Ambassador 1977 Hornet 1982 Concord D/L 1984 Eagle Limited |
Posted By: Article Indefini
Date Posted: Apr/17/2019 at 4:11am
| Thank you for the link (also, kudos for your condescending comments... So nice!). These parts from Napa may work but they differ from what I have. Nevertheless, I give you the benefit of the doubt and will give it a try. I will follow your advice regarding my search skills. I hope you can do the same with your manners. Greetings from Malibu California |
Posted By: Article Indefini
Date Posted: Apr/17/2019 at 5:40am
| Thanks a lot! Best Jj |
Posted By: pacerman
Date Posted: Apr/17/2019 at 6:21am
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Don't buy them. They are not Pacer mounts. Pacer mounts are unique to the Pacer. You will require the cylindrical mounts that were make for that car. Some Mopar motor mounts can be modified to provide inserts into the Pacer mount shells. I don't think Glen Hoag is on the Forum but you might try googling his name and see if you can get in contact with him. Other knowledgeable people, perhaps on the Facebook page will have knowledge about how to modify the Mopar mount inserts to fit the AMC shells. Joe ------------- Happiness is making something out of nothing. |
Posted By: kirkwood
Date Posted: Apr/17/2019 at 8:02am
Pacers use different motor mounts than other AMC cars. I would suggest verifying your information before being rude to another member. ------------- AMO Newsletter Editor |
Posted By: AMXRWB
Date Posted: Apr/17/2019 at 9:29am
| Wow.Rock Auto has the mount for $2.19 each.Have no idea if they are correct I never worked on a Pacer.Back in the day the mounts were around $30 each or more.Engine oil is a motor mount killer over time.Keep the oil off the rubber. |
Posted By: mrblatzman
Date Posted: Apr/17/2019 at 9:45am
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Yes...The Pacer mounts are unique to the Pacers, and there is a distinct left and a right...There is a older Chrysler motor mount that can be used by putting the insert in the old Pacer steel housing...That mount was fairly common and cheap, but I cant remember its mumber...People have been using them for years and someone who is into Pacers will know that number...With a bad mount, usually on the drivers side, that has been exposed to the exhaust heat, the rubber goes bad and lets the engine sit metal to metal on the cross member and causes lots of vibration...Changing them is not a hard job, but the engine has to be supported, and do them one at a time...American Parts Depot did have the Chrysler ones a while back...maybe they still do...If you use them be sure you get the heavier made side correctly positioned...Bob in Alabama Went to Rock Auto and the ones pictured there are NOT correct...Also looked at American Parts depot and they show the correct insert for $20 each...The last AMC ones I saw were from Steve Jackson and they sold for large money...APD is the way to go here... ------------- Thankyou....Bob |
Posted By: carguyrick
Date Posted: Apr/17/2019 at 9:59am
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I am afraid that the earlier comments are correct. The Hornet/Gremlin parts are not the same. Pacer mounts are unfortunately unique. On my Pacer I used ones from a parts car that were still in good shape. American Parts Depot has these listed: http://www.americanpartsdepot.com/MotorMounts.htm - http://www.americanpartsdepot.com/MotorMounts.htm Do they have stock? They are a little extra work as you have to reuse parts of the old mounts to make them work. But it is better than nothing at all. Good luck! Rick
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Posted By: purple72Gremlin
Date Posted: Apr/17/2019 at 12:36pm
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And if you do find new mounts... keep your old ones as they are not easy to find....
And like it or not. Pacers have alot of Pacer only parts, and so just because it has a 232 doesnt mean much....
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Posted By: REBEL_BOB
Date Posted: Apr/17/2019 at 1:24pm
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Pacerman is right the only motor mount that fits a PACER six cyl is a oval mount with a bolt thru it and it only fits a PACER the mount that all stores show like NAPA are wrong and the fit other AMC cars with six cyls but not the PACER. I have a 1975 PACER with a 258cyl and replaced them with inserts from GALVINS they are right and worked great ------------- THANKS FROM REBEL_BOB |
Posted By: FSJunkie
Date Posted: Apr/17/2019 at 3:14pm
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Old mounts are usually just a rubber cushion with studs attached. The newer motor mounts are a "captive motor mount" containing metal plates that interlock to catch and hold the engine in place if the rubber part fails for whatever reason. It's a safety feature. The interlocking plates hang off the side of the mount and that's probably why they look different than your current mounts. They fit and function properly. It's important to turn the mounts the right way while installing them so these plates will interlock in case of a mount failure. ------------- 1955 Packard 1966 Marlin 1972 Wagoneer 1973 Ambassador 1977 Hornet 1982 Concord D/L 1984 Eagle Limited |
Posted By: Article Indefini
Date Posted: Apr/17/2019 at 3:26pm
| Thanks a lot for the detailed information. I appreciate the tips and shared experience. Best Jerome |
Posted By: pacerman
Date Posted: Apr/17/2019 at 4:01pm
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FSJunkie you still don't get it. You don't understand what a Pacer mount looks like. It is completely different from the other AMC six or eight mounts. It is a cylinder with a cylindrical rubber insert. Originally they were vulcanized into one part but as explained above the inserts are replaceable and are reportedly available from some of the AMC vendors. Joe ------------- Happiness is making something out of nothing. |
Posted By: Article Indefini
Date Posted: Apr/17/2019 at 4:26pm
| Very useful and insightful post. THANKS a lot! I really helps me to narrow it down to the correct parts. :) |
Posted By: Article Indefini
Date Posted: Apr/17/2019 at 4:27pm
| Very useful message :) Everyone is really helping so gracefully. Thanks a lot! |
Posted By: tomj
Date Posted: Apr/17/2019 at 11:20pm
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i've learned to keep one/set of replaced parts when this sort of issue arises. for special-application stuff, not belts, hoses, or easy to find things. but motor mounts, for sure. when you find a good set, keep those old ones. a year or two or ten from now, you might stumble on some part that "looks like it might fit..." and that old junk part is there to be measured, photo'd etc. i cant count the times when having the old junk part has saved my butt for all sorts of unforseeable reasons. ------------- 1960 Rambler Super two-door wagon, OHV auto 1961 Roadster American, 195.6 OHV, T5 http://www.ramblerLore.com |
Posted By: purple72Gremlin
Date Posted: Apr/17/2019 at 11:26pm
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Posted By: goul6891
Date Posted: Jun/16/2019 at 4:15am
In case anyone finds this later, the Chrysler interchange bushing can be found as EM-2376. There are two variants, apparently. With two large slots, or with 4 smallish holes. The version with the holes is what you want. As suggested by others, I burned the original bushing from the mount, but found the remaining 'sleeve' was quite a bit too small for the Chrysler bushing to be installed. So I popped out the original outer sleeve, which made the Chrysler bushing have about 1/16" gap all the way around. Take note of which way the flared side of the bushing goes on before destruction. Both right and left use the same EM-2376 bushing. Then I just centered them up and tried welding some good tacks around, trying not to cook the bushings.  |
Posted By: paulers
Date Posted: Jun/21/2019 at 12:27am
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