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Topic: White Case Gr 24 Batteries
Posted By: kcsamc
Subject: White Case Gr 24 Batteries
Date Posted: Jul/19/2018 at 3:34pm
It looks like INTERSTATE has just changed the Megatron series from clear/white cases to black..... (not that it was perfect anyway with the raised lettering...)

Has anyone found a (smooth side) battery that will work under the AMARK toppers with a white case?

I am not seeing any on web searches and I need to buy a battery in the next month.

Painting a battery faux clear guard is not a preferred answer right now, but is looking more necessary with each passing day....

ANYONE?


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Kevin Shope
1964 Classic 660
https://theamcforum.com/forum/rare-ragtop-rogue-refurb_topic112071.html" rel="nofollow - 67 Rogue 290-4V 4spd Conv
A-Scheme SC/Rambler (69 SC JOURNEY)



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Posted By: kirkwood
Date Posted: Jul/19/2018 at 3:53pm
Are all the megatron batteries black now? It seems like the last time I bought one the megatron II was still clear. That was all I was ever able to find that was even close unfortunately.

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AMO Newsletter Editor


Posted By: kcsamc
Date Posted: Jul/19/2018 at 8:08pm
Looks that way on the website now. Last I bought 2 years ago was white... With raised letters where you don't want...

Unless there is stock around somewhere...

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Kevin Shope
1964 Classic 660
https://theamcforum.com/forum/rare-ragtop-rogue-refurb_topic112071.html" rel="nofollow - 67 Rogue 290-4V 4spd Conv
A-Scheme SC/Rambler (69 SC JOURNEY)


Posted By: george w
Date Posted: Jul/19/2018 at 8:20pm
What about the reproduction AMC batteries from Antique Auto Battery. The current models look pretty close to the real thing and the internals are now the better quality AGM type.

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Long time AMC fan. Ambassador 343, AMX 390, Hornet 360, Spirit 304 and Javelin 390. All but javelin bought new.


Posted By: kcsamc
Date Posted: Jul/20/2018 at 5:48am
George no offence but I'm interested in discussing AMARK topper use only with this thread to work to a common solution for many of us desiring to use the AMARK solution rather than Antique Auto Batteries solution.

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Kevin Shope
1964 Classic 660
https://theamcforum.com/forum/rare-ragtop-rogue-refurb_topic112071.html" rel="nofollow - 67 Rogue 290-4V 4spd Conv
A-Scheme SC/Rambler (69 SC JOURNEY)


Posted By: bigbad69
Date Posted: Jul/20/2018 at 7:50am
Here's an old thread where sidewinder (Chuck) talks about painting the black battery case to look like the original. It's not 100% concours correct, but neither is a battery topper.

http://theamcforum.com/forum/factory-original-batteries_topic25196_post231382.html?KW=battery#231382" rel="nofollow - http://theamcforum.com/forum/factory-original-batteries_topic25196_post231382.html?KW=battery#231382

This is something I'm looking at since I managed to score one of Amark's  toppers before he stopping producing them, and I need a battery for the Javelin.


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69 Javelin SST BBO 390 T10


Posted By: george w
Date Posted: Jul/20/2018 at 9:27am
No offense taken. I fully understand the desire for a white case when using a battery topper. From the way your initial post was worded it seemed as if you were looking for the most authentic appearing battery that may be available for your SC/Rambler. Short of an original NOS Clear Power, which of course would be the ultimate first choice, a second choice would be one of the AMC Parts Division, over the counter batteries. As you probably know, these were not the same as the Clear Power, as they were offered into the 1970's and for a much as I could tell came from a different or various vendors. I have no idea of who actually made the Clear Powers. These later AMC parts replacements did have the white semi transparent cases but had different colored tops depending on their amp ratings. Also, the AMC logo and other spec info was printed on attached vinyl labels rather than being molded into the battery top.

The last of the white case batteries that I remember seeing were the Interstates with either the green or the gray tops and the Sears Diehards.
How many "real" battery manufacturers are left here in the US ?? There's three that I know of: Johnson Controls, Exide & Deka. Even the Delco's don;t appear to be made by Delco any more. Are there others ?

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Long time AMC fan. Ambassador 343, AMX 390, Hornet 360, Spirit 304 and Javelin 390. All but javelin bought new.


Posted By: ramblinrev
Date Posted: Jul/20/2018 at 10:11am
Almost all batteries are now made in other countries. Not sure we have any car battery factories even left in the US!

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74 Hornet Hatchback X twins (since 1977)
62 American Convertible (still worth the $50 I spent in 1973!) AMCRC #513, AMO #384
70 AMX 360 4-speed (since 1981)


Posted By: Trader
Date Posted: Jul/20/2018 at 11:09am
I know not authentic,
but a gentleman near me cleaned out the case of an old battery (that is not available any more) and wired three matching AGM motorcycle batteries in parallel inside the case. 
It has been running that way for years and he gets points for his "original" battery.
Even glued in little cups so when you unscrew the caps you see water!  More CCA then the original.
The batteries have to be matched sets or they will not play nice together.
And if you do this be careful with the acid!


Posted By: Have2SC's
Date Posted: Jul/20/2018 at 11:18am
Originally posted by ramblinrev ramblinrev wrote:

Almost all batteries are now made in other countries. Not sure we have any car battery factories even left in the US!
Paul,   East Penn manufacturing in Pa.  I believe they are one of the largest battery manufacturing companies in the U.S.   Lee

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1971 SC360 Hornet 4 speed   1970 Javelin 390 4 speed "Base Model" 1967 Rambler 220 X code 343 4 speed


Posted By: george w
Date Posted: Jul/20/2018 at 7:56pm
Deka is East Penn's brand.

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Long time AMC fan. Ambassador 343, AMX 390, Hornet 360, Spirit 304 and Javelin 390. All but javelin bought new.


Posted By: Have2SC's
Date Posted: Jul/20/2018 at 8:08pm
Originally posted by george w george w wrote:

Deka is East Penn's brand.
Correct!! They also make batteries for many different brands including NAPA if i recall. 

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1971 SC360 Hornet 4 speed   1970 Javelin 390 4 speed "Base Model" 1967 Rambler 220 X code 343 4 speed


Posted By: kcsamc
Date Posted: Jul/21/2018 at 6:06am
Ok back to the subject of the thread. White case batteries anyone? Any parts house got a brand we don't normally see that is white? etc.

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Kevin Shope
1964 Classic 660
https://theamcforum.com/forum/rare-ragtop-rogue-refurb_topic112071.html" rel="nofollow - 67 Rogue 290-4V 4spd Conv
A-Scheme SC/Rambler (69 SC JOURNEY)


Posted By: Trader
Date Posted: Jul/21/2018 at 6:28am
Did not find a white battery case but did find this:
https://www.metrorestyling.com/3M-1080-G10-Scotchprint-Gloss-White-Vinyl-Wrap-p/gloss1080g10.htm" rel="nofollow - https://www.metrorestyling.com/3M-1080-G10-Scotchprint-Gloss-White-Vinyl-Wrap-p/gloss1080g10.htm  
Likely hold up better then paint.


Posted By: george w
Date Posted: Jul/21/2018 at 8:37am
It seems that all the chain store batteries today are all black cases. I recently purchased a couple of Mopar batteries from my local FCA dealer and they too are all black. More to the point though it seems that most of these over the counter batteries from the various outlets all appear to come from the same manufacturer(s)as the cases and mold lines seem pretty much identical. That white wrap idea with a topper may be the best solution to mimic the OEM Clear Power short of the look alike Antique Auto Battery replica. Just as an FYI, The AAB replica top looks almost the same as the battery topper. A fairly good likeness, but you can tell it's not the real deal.


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Long time AMC fan. Ambassador 343, AMX 390, Hornet 360, Spirit 304 and Javelin 390. All but javelin bought new.


Posted By: Have2SC's
Date Posted: Jul/21/2018 at 11:31am
Originally posted by kcsamc kcsamc wrote:

Ok back to the subject of the thread. White case batteries anyone? Any parts house got a brand we don't normally see that is white? etc.
  Kevin,  sorry i got off topic but you may want to look into Interstate batteries as they still do make a white 24 group battery but it will have a green top. One of our local parts stores have them in stock.  Lee

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1971 SC360 Hornet 4 speed   1970 Javelin 390 4 speed "Base Model" 1967 Rambler 220 X code 343 4 speed


Posted By: ccowx
Date Posted: Jul/21/2018 at 1:52pm
I painted my black case battery with a heavy band of pure white Tremclad around the top and then a light spray of white over the whole battery to give a more grey look where the faux fluid level was. I had to give a light sanding with fine sandpaper to give decent adhesion, but I am pretty happy with the look overall.

Chris 


Posted By: george w
Date Posted: Jul/21/2018 at 2:42pm
Hope the painted on electrolyte level isn't too low !

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Long time AMC fan. Ambassador 343, AMX 390, Hornet 360, Spirit 304 and Javelin 390. All but javelin bought new.


Posted By: kcsamc
Date Posted: Jul/21/2018 at 4:49pm
Originally posted by ccowx ccowx wrote:

I painted my black case battery with a heavy band of pure white Tremclad around the top and then a light spray of white over the whole battery to give a more grey look where the faux fluid level was. I had to give a light sanding with fine sandpaper to give decent adhesion, but I am pretty happy with the look overall.

Chris 


How about a picture on the finished product. Thus is starting to sound like the kind of thing we have to do.

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Kevin Shope
1964 Classic 660
https://theamcforum.com/forum/rare-ragtop-rogue-refurb_topic112071.html" rel="nofollow - 67 Rogue 290-4V 4spd Conv
A-Scheme SC/Rambler (69 SC JOURNEY)


Posted By: ccowx
Date Posted: Jul/21/2018 at 6:05pm
But then I would get outed on my scruffy engine bay! Seriously, it needs a wipe with a damp cloth, but this should give you the idea.




Posted By: kcsamc
Date Posted: Jul/21/2018 at 7:07pm
Looks good! Thanks for taking one for the team!

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Kevin Shope
1964 Classic 660
https://theamcforum.com/forum/rare-ragtop-rogue-refurb_topic112071.html" rel="nofollow - 67 Rogue 290-4V 4spd Conv
A-Scheme SC/Rambler (69 SC JOURNEY)


Posted By: amxdreamer
Date Posted: Jul/21/2018 at 8:46pm
Originally posted by ccowx ccowx wrote:

But then I would get outed on my scruffy engine bay! Seriously, it needs a wipe with a damp cloth, but this should give you the idea.



After 10 1/2 months of winter that engine compartment should be spotless! tsk tsk tsk


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Tony
Vancouver, BC
1970 AMX
1972 Badassador
AMO#10333


Posted By: ccowx
Date Posted: Jul/21/2018 at 10:34pm
It was only 7 months this year, we got off lightly! Besides, even you would not be detailing in the garage at -30F.

Chris


Posted By: amxdreamer
Date Posted: Jul/21/2018 at 10:52pm
I'm usually working when it's -30.....lol

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Tony
Vancouver, BC
1970 AMX
1972 Badassador
AMO#10333


Posted By: ccowx
Date Posted: Jul/22/2018 at 1:19am
Fires happen at -30?



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