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Topic: In line tubes...???
Posted By: BrotherBamc
Subject: In line tubes...???
Date Posted: May/18/2018 at 10:31am
I need power disc brake lines for my 73 Gremlin and they seem to be the only one that makes or has them. 
Anyone have any experience with them...??? 
Do they fit right out of the box or are there modifications that have to be done...??? 
With all that said they seem to be the only ones out there that have them for my application, so I guess I am kind of stuck with them. 
I've tried other companies but haven't had the best of luck.
Comments welcome...!! 
Thanks...!! 


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77 CJ5 360
73 Gremlin 401 4 speed
2006 Dodge Magnum R/T AWD
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Posted By: 401MATCOUPE
Date Posted: May/18/2018 at 11:01am
In Line tubes sucks...I would never buy from them again, terrible fit, customer service sucks.....call Fine Lines, they have plenty that is not in their on-line catalog.  I bought a set of 727 Trans Lines for later model Javelin and they were not even close, they would not take them back either......

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Ross K. Peterson
68X,GoPac,343,AT,52A(1stCar)
68X,GoPac,390,4sp,52A
69X,GoPac,390,4sp,64A
70X,GoPac,390,4sp,87A,8
70X,GoPac,390,4sp,BBO,8
70 Jav SST,390,AT,BSO
74MatX,401,AT,Prototype
74MatX,401,AT


Posted By: BrotherBamc
Date Posted: May/18/2018 at 11:17am
Thank you Ross...
That's what I was afraid of... it's basically a crap shoot and more then likely I'd end up with crap.
I just got off the phone with Justin at Fine Lines and he has no listing for any small bodied cars.
The only thing that he has is for the AMX's and Javelins 68 thru 70. 
So, that makes me wonder if I can use the AMX's brake lines on the small bodied car(s). 
I can fit the rear end of an 68 AMX under a Gremlin and isn't the wheel base on the 68 thru 69 AMX's basically the same as a small bodied car...??? So, why wouldn't the power disc brake lines from an AMX fit a the small bodied cars...??? 
Justin didn't know if the AMX's brake lines would work or not, but I need something besides having to try to bend my own brake lines. 


Edit...
68 AMX has a 97 inch wheel base...
Gremlin has a 96 inch wheel base... 


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77 CJ5 360
73 Gremlin 401 4 speed
2006 Dodge Magnum R/T AWD
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Posted By: acm
Date Posted: May/18/2018 at 11:31am
I just installed Inline Tubes brake kit & 3/8" fuel line...The bends are generally OK but expect to spend a lot of time tweaking the lines to fit correctly.
Biggest issue I had was the 2 lies that go over the trans tunnel to the prop valve.  There was an extra bend in 1 line (looks like the line slipped on die during bending) that needed to be straightened out.

Probably, quicker than starting from scratch, but not by much.


Posted By: billd
Date Posted: May/18/2018 at 12:47pm
Use the copper/nickel line - it's EASY to work with, easier to double-flare, and you can bend it a time or two before it work hardens like anything with copper always does. I bought a 50' roll and did my 73 Javelin.
Cars vary a bit with placement of parts, brackets, hoses, valves and so on - so "maybe" you could find something close but then if you had to rebend or re-flare, well.......... is it worth making something fit that isn't quite right and spending all that time trying to bend steel lines?

When I did my 70 I bought the rear lines supposedly ready to go - and ended up fighting them to make them fit and seal. 

the copper/nickel lines are not only easier to work with, they will not rust, either. 


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Posted By: 401MATCOUPE
Date Posted: May/18/2018 at 3:05pm
Small body lines are completely different for 73 with disc and front proportioning valve then any 2 seater AMX......contact Scott Campbell, he used to work there and I think he had lines made for his 71 SC-360, they maybe close or even right on.

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Ross K. Peterson
68X,GoPac,343,AT,52A(1stCar)
68X,GoPac,390,4sp,52A
69X,GoPac,390,4sp,64A
70X,GoPac,390,4sp,87A,8
70X,GoPac,390,4sp,BBO,8
70 Jav SST,390,AT,BSO
74MatX,401,AT,Prototype
74MatX,401,AT


Posted By: BrotherBamc
Date Posted: May/18/2018 at 3:11pm
Originally posted by billd billd wrote:

Use the copper/nickel line - it's EASY to work with, easier to double-flare, and you can bend it a time or two before it work hardens like anything with copper always does. I bought a 50' roll and did my 73 Javelin.
Cars vary a bit with placement of parts, brackets, hoses, valves and so on - so "maybe" you could find something close but then if you had to rebend or re-flare, well.......... is it worth making something fit that isn't quite right and spending all that time trying to bend steel lines?

When I did my 70 I bought the rear lines supposedly ready to go - and ended up fighting them to make them fit and seal. 

the copper/nickel lines are not only easier to work with, they will not rust, either. 


Good points Bill... I may end up going that way. I still have my old lines so I could probably easily reproduce them with the copper/nickel. I will definitely look into it.. 
Thank you...


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77 CJ5 360
73 Gremlin 401 4 speed
2006 Dodge Magnum R/T AWD
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Posted By: BrotherBamc
Date Posted: May/18/2018 at 3:21pm
Originally posted by 401MATCOUPE 401MATCOUPE wrote:

Small body lines are completely different for 73 with disc and front proportioning valve then any 2 seater AMX......contact Scott Campbell, he used to work there and I think he had lines made for his 71 SC-360, they maybe close or even right on.

I imagine that Early Hornet would be spot on or very close. Except for wheelbase length. 
That's what I was referring to and thinking why early AMX 2 seater would be close. There is only an inch difference between the Gremlin and AMX. 

Thank you.. 


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77 CJ5 360
73 Gremlin 401 4 speed
2006 Dodge Magnum R/T AWD
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Posted By: billd
Date Posted: May/18/2018 at 5:38pm
"Hey, Lady, where's the rest of your car hahahahaha"  ;-)    I guess that ages me, eh?

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Posted By: BrotherBamc
Date Posted: May/18/2018 at 6:50pm
Originally posted by billd billd wrote:

"Hey, Lady, where's the rest of your car hahahahaha"  ;-)    I guess that ages me, eh?

LOL...!!! 
Those are "street fighting" words...!!! 
I used to whoop on some small blocks, (and others) back in the day with my 258 with only "half" a car.. 

And no.. it doesn't age you.. not unless you are wine or cheese... Big smile


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77 CJ5 360
73 Gremlin 401 4 speed
2006 Dodge Magnum R/T AWD
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Posted By: amcfool1
Date Posted: May/19/2018 at 11:38am
Hi, x2 on the copper/nickel lines, last year redid my 84 Eagle, all four lines with that, not cheap, but definitely worth it. Eagle uses 3/16, main brake/tank vent, 1/4", fuel return, and 5/!6", main fuel. good luck, gz

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george z


Posted By: one bad rambler
Date Posted: May/20/2018 at 9:14pm
I switched over to Nicopp...nickel copper lines and will never go back...Pre bent lines...Never waste of money

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Posted By: BrotherBamc
Date Posted: May/22/2018 at 9:28am
Needless to say I am very disappointed in fine line tubes...
I contacted Scott and asked whom I could contact there to see about having some Hornet lines made.
I was under the assumption that everything that they make, or have made in the past would be on a computer or somewhere.
Scott said to contact Rick in sales. I sent him an email last night and this was the response that I received...
WOW...!!! Really...?!?!?! 
Guess I will make my own...
Thanks everyone for the great tips...!!! 


 
Hi William,
The only lines I have available are listed for the 1971-74 Javelin/AMX. I could not tell you if those will work on your set up or not.
Thanks,


Have a great day,
Rick Armbrust
Fine Lines
Inside Sales Rep.
(330) 335-5000 Ext.129
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73 Gremlin 401 4 speed
2006 Dodge Magnum R/T AWD
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