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Topic: What are these???
Posted By: Red20
Subject: What are these???
Date Posted: May/15/2018 at 7:51pm
Not sure what section this best fits in, so here it is.

Need help identifying the following items:

Under wiper motor with vacuum hose connected to it
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Behind grill, driver side. Vacuum connection and separate electrical connection.
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1969 Javelin SST "Screamin' Banana" - Totaled Feb 2018
1973 Hornet Sportabout X "yellajack" - 360/727/TracLoc DAILY DRIVER



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Posted By: pacerman
Date Posted: May/15/2018 at 8:20pm
The second picture shows the ambient temperature sensor for the TCS (transmission controlled spark) system.  I think the first picture might show the TCS solenoid vacuum valve.  That TCS system was used to control NOx emissions during the early 70s.  If that Hornet is older than 1976 you can disable that system in CA.  Joe

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Posted By: billd
Date Posted: May/15/2018 at 8:57pm
Especially if it's an automatic and there's a four wire connector where the NSS and backup light connections go - then I suspect he's right about TCS.
Mid-70s cars with automatics had that in many cases.

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Posted By: Samuelsc360
Date Posted: May/16/2018 at 6:47am
That vacuum valve is supposed to be mounted to the rear of the engine.  

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1973 Ambassador Sedan 360
1973 Hornet X 360
1973 Javelin AMC 401
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Posted By: Red20
Date Posted: May/16/2018 at 10:19am
Ok, I was wondering if that was TCS stuff based on my wiring schematic. Weird system the way AMC (I guess everyone?) did it. The 727 only has the 3 terminal NSS.

Thanks guys. More parts for the parts shelf then.

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1969 Javelin SST "Screamin' Banana" - Totaled Feb 2018
1973 Hornet Sportabout X "yellajack" - 360/727/TracLoc DAILY DRIVER


Posted By: 401MATCOUPE
Date Posted: May/16/2018 at 11:20am
Bill D is talking about the NSS switch connector at firewall having the 4 wire connector, not at the actual NSS.  That is where AMC tied the Speed sensor for the TCS switch int the harness.

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Posted By: Red20
Date Posted: May/16/2018 at 11:32am
Oh ok. That makes more sense.

While we’re on the subject of vacuum, sensors, switches, etc., are both of the vacuum lines running into the engine bay through the A/C hoses grommet for the vacuum heater control valve? And why two separate supply lines then? I’m just gonna run them to a T, I suppose. I have an extra nipple on the back of my manifold from when I ran a TH350 with a vacuum modulator.

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1969 Javelin SST "Screamin' Banana" - Totaled Feb 2018
1973 Hornet Sportabout X "yellajack" - 360/727/TracLoc DAILY DRIVER


Posted By: Snotty
Date Posted: May/16/2018 at 2:35pm
Originally posted by pacerman pacerman wrote:

The second picture shows the ambient temperature sensor for the TCS (transmission controlled spark) system.  I think the first picture might show the TCS solenoid vacuum valve.  That TCS system was used to control NOx emissions during the early 70s.  If that Hornet is older than 1976 you can disable that system in CA.  Joe

I had that part on our '73 Gremlin X, 258 and 3-speed. I had no idea what it was or where it came from. Still have it in a box.

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Son's car: '73 Gremlin X, 401, T-10, Mopar 8.75 rear with 3.23 sure grip. My car: '70 Newport Convertible, 440 automatic



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