Peking to Paris Rally 2016
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Topic: Peking to Paris Rally 2016
Posted By: P2P AMX
Subject: Peking to Paris Rally 2016
Date Posted: Jan/13/2016 at 2:37am
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Hi from London, We've been posting in the new members forum, but somebody suggested we should add a post here. We've prepared an AMC AMX for the Peking to Paris Rally later this year. We have a website with all the preparation to date and updates and tracking as the event gets nearer and happens. See the thread in introductions or slobber on the pictures at: www.p2pamx.com Jim Valentine Dare to be Diffident    ------------- Jim Dare to be diffident |
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Posted By: tsanchez
Date Posted: Jan/13/2016 at 8:49am
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Very cool!!!! ------------- http://s192.photobucket.com/user/antonsan/media/jav1_zps87a70dce.jpg.html" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: WesternRed
Date Posted: Jan/13/2016 at 4:49pm
| Awesome, will be following this with interest. |
Posted By: P2P AMX
Date Posted: Jan/14/2016 at 3:30am
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Thanks fellows, It really helps to have your encouragement, Jim |
Posted By: Hurst390
Date Posted: Jan/14/2016 at 8:03am
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Posted By: klvn8r
Date Posted: Jan/16/2016 at 12:58pm
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Dang!!! That's commitment! klvn8r |
Posted By: BrotherBamc
Date Posted: Jan/16/2016 at 1:47pm
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Cool car! Hope you guys get to say AMC-YA to competition! ------------- 77 CJ5 360 73 Gremlin 401 4 speed 2006 Dodge Magnum R/T AWD http://www.lxforums.com/board/garage.php?do=user_garage_view&id=19745" rel="nofollow - My Garage |
Posted By: GreggR
Date Posted: Jan/17/2016 at 9:42am
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How many AMC's have ever been in China...??? Any...? You could be a history-maker. Good luck, and throw us a reminder as this draws near... some of us suffer from memory loss...!!!  ------------- No matter where you go, there you are... Buckaroo Banzai.'75 Hornet Hatchback |
Posted By: P2P AMX
Date Posted: Jan/19/2016 at 4:47pm
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It only spits fire out the back, check the overrun at the end of the clip on the website: www.p2pamx.com Or watch it on You Tube: https://youtu.be/TMyb1qVRATg |
Posted By: shelbycoleman
Date Posted: Jan/19/2016 at 5:01pm
| Very cool! Love watching the old car being put through it's paces. |
Posted By: amcglass
Date Posted: Jan/22/2016 at 7:25am
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be an interesting thing to see how this pans out ------------- Javmanpres BBG Mark Donohue 401 74 Jav/AMX 71 Matador 2dr sedan delivery wagon 1902 Rambler Runabout 70 T/A Javelin |
Posted By: White70JavelinSST
Date Posted: Jan/25/2016 at 10:43am
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AWESOME ! ------------- 70 Javelin SST, second owner, purchased 1972 |
Posted By: Aljav
Date Posted: Feb/04/2016 at 8:50pm
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This is incredible!!! I wish you guys the best of luck. Keep us posted on any and all progress. Hopefully you can keep us posted during the race some how. ------------- 69 AMX 9.86 132 mph 71 JAV/AMX and 69 Javelin, .. NAMDRA member #1106 |
Posted By: Peter Jan
Date Posted: Feb/05/2016 at 12:53pm
 You do know that 'Geen Remmen' means 'No Brakes' ? |
Posted By: Aljav
Date Posted: Feb/05/2016 at 3:39pm
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I saw that on their Web site. No need for brakes when your on a mission!!!...LOL ------------- 69 AMX 9.86 132 mph 71 JAV/AMX and 69 Javelin, .. NAMDRA member #1106 |
Posted By: P2P AMX
Date Posted: Feb/07/2016 at 6:20am
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The name Geen Remmen was given when the car was collected in the Netherlands with a big label on the steering wheel for the workshop staff, just sort of stuck. Thanks to all for your continuing support. Updates on progress fairly often on www.p2pamx.com and we'll try to keep an event blog during the rally. The organisers will be tracking the cars during the event and we should be able to have a link up to the cars location during the rally. Many thanks, Jim ------------- Jim Dare to be diffident |
Posted By: uncljohn
Date Posted: Feb/07/2016 at 2:01pm
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There is no reason in the world why this should not work, so good luck and a lot of folk including myself are on your side. ------------- 70 390 5spd Donohue 74 Hornet In restoration 76 Hornet, 5.7L Mercury Marine Power 80 Fuel Injected I6 Spirit 74 232 I-6, 4bbl, 270HL Isky Cam |
Posted By: P2P AMX
Date Posted: Feb/21/2016 at 6:15am
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Great Day testing on Friday, check out the video got a great shot: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsp8HHGdk_0 Also Erik Carlsson's memorial service video is back up on You Tube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=14&v=RaOvGWS9yOE My old two stroke 96 features second in line to the museum car, mine is the one with most stickers, and that is my bald patch in a suit early on Today we leave for Morocco and a longer test on the fringes of the Sahara. Fairly confident this will be the first AMC car to visit Africa, can anyone confirm this? ------------- Jim Dare to be diffident |
Posted By: hassyfoto
Date Posted: Feb/21/2016 at 6:18am
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Kool Video! Will be watching your post on the preparations and race when they happen. Good Luck!!! ------------- Murphy's Law: Any given mechanical job you decide to solve alone will imminently require a third hand, at its most critical moment |
Posted By: Peter Jan
Date Posted: Feb/21/2016 at 8:19am
Could be the first AMX on African soil, but who knows ? I have seen a few older AMC Jeeps and a Concord driving around in Morocco when I was travelling there. Some Rambler Renault (Classic "CKD" kits assembled in Belgium) found their way into Morocco, Algeria, Tunisia and Egypt through Renault dealerships in the late sixties. AMC's were assembled in Durban, South Africa. First Nash/Hudson in the fifties, later under Rambler nameplate during the sixties/seventies I think. Probably not that many around anymore these days, but you can definately encounter AMC's and Ramblers on the African continent. |
P2P AMX wrote:Posted By: P2P AMX
Date Posted: Mar/05/2016 at 7:01am
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We would like to claim first AMC AMX to visit Africa. Unless anyone has evidence to the contrary? all the best, Jim ------------- Jim Dare to be diffident |
Posted By: AMXFSTBK390
Date Posted: Mar/05/2016 at 3:44pm
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To get a close to accurate response, you might want to email one of the Classic Car Outlets in S. Africa, they would be "in the know". Currently there are several AMC classic cars for sale in S.Africa: 1967 Rambler 770 Typhoon RHD, 1975 AMC Hornet 5DR, and a 1969 Javelin SST 343.     ------------- Questions are powerful tools...what's in your toolbox? |
Posted By: 401MATCOUPE
Date Posted: Mar/05/2016 at 6:15pm
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Maybe first 2 seater AMX, I know that the Secretary to the US Consulate in South Africa exported a 1971 Electric Blue AMX there, it was a 360, 4V, 4 SPEED, Go Pac Car, and when she retired in 1980's she brought it back and it ended up in the Baltimore Area, it lost oil pressure indication and she was having difficulty depressing the clutch and sold it in the Washington Post....never saw it again. ------------- Ross K. Peterson 68X,GoPac,343,AT,52A(1stCar) 68X,GoPac,390,4sp,52A 69X,GoPac,390,4sp,64A 70X,GoPac,390,4sp,87A,8 70X,GoPac,390,4sp,BBO,8 70 Jav SST,390,AT,BSO 74MatX,401,AT,Prototype 74MatX,401,AT |
Posted By: Aljav
Date Posted: Mar/05/2016 at 7:56pm
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Doesn't matter if its the first, It certainly is the coolest!!! Love to read your exploits in Africa. So glad to see the AMX holding up so well. Keep the info coming. This is one of the most interesting projects I have seen in years!!  Thanks!! Allan ------------- 69 AMX 9.86 132 mph 71 JAV/AMX and 69 Javelin, .. NAMDRA member #1106 |
Posted By: 70javluvr
Date Posted: Mar/05/2016 at 8:10pm
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Why is this the first I have heard of this build. This is one wicked build love it!!! ------------- 70 Javelin Donohue Tribute car Sonic Silver/Shadow Mask/360/Custom Interior 
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Posted By: Aljav
Date Posted: Mar/05/2016 at 9:14pm
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http://p2pamx.co.uk/" rel="nofollow - http://p2pamx.co.uk/
Great Read!!! ------------- 69 AMX 9.86 132 mph 71 JAV/AMX and 69 Javelin, .. NAMDRA member #1106 |
Posted By: P2P AMX
Date Posted: Mar/11/2016 at 2:04am
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Thank you for your encouragement New posts on www.p2pamx.com Photos of testing in the desert and write ups of our adventures testing in Morocco We'll be shipping the car to China soon so a last dash to get it ready. Jim ------------- Jim Dare to be diffident |
Posted By: P2P AMX
Date Posted: Apr/05/2016 at 2:49pm
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First AMX in China? Seem to have failed on the first in Africa? Or perhaps first AMC on four continents? Jim ------------- Jim Dare to be diffident |
Posted By: P2P AMX
Date Posted: Apr/27/2016 at 11:09am
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A naked effort to get this discussion back to the top... Turns out according to chatter that the presenters of Wheeler Dealers are going to be on the Peking to Paris Rally in a 1916 Cadillac. Although they're not on the entry list so this may all be media hooey. They present a long running show on buying improving and selling classics. I actually own one of the show cars, a Renault Alpine A310.  Which is a very lovely thing Shows are great for petrol heads and women who fancy Ed China the mechanic. I think you can find programmes from the seven odd series on the net if you dig around and a new season starts in May, 2016 We're busy getting Visas and trying to get fit before the event start in 46 days time. ------------- Jim Dare to be diffident |
Posted By: tsanchez
Date Posted: Apr/27/2016 at 1:45pm
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Good luck ------------- http://s192.photobucket.com/user/antonsan/media/jav1_zps87a70dce.jpg.html" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: P2P AMX
Date Posted: Jun/03/2016 at 11:41am
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Well we're off on Wednesday. We will be updating our adventure on www.p2pamx.com Follow us there! ------------- Jim Dare to be diffident |
Posted By: Hurst390
Date Posted: Jun/03/2016 at 11:17pm
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Best of Luck!
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Posted By: jcsperson
Date Posted: Jun/18/2016 at 11:23am
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They're into day 6. Some pics. More at their - website. The organizers had to have done this on purpose :lol:  ...and they're off...  I wonder if the participants had to pay tolls  Desolate  A ball joint gave out in Mongolia 
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Posted By: ambassador401
Date Posted: Jun/18/2016 at 2:57pm
| This is awesome! Love those giant prewar hotrods! |
Posted By: P2P AMX
Date Posted: Jul/23/2016 at 11:43am
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Well we got a finish at least, and we were fastest stage car by a country mile until we found a critical weakness in the front ball joints. Nonetheless car regularly set top ten stage times even with us taking it easy. Now needs a new owner to enjoy her. Advert at: http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C769803 uploads/13586/AMX_Duen.jpg"> Huzzah, JIm ------------- Jim Dare to be diffident |
Posted By: 304-dude
Date Posted: Jul/23/2016 at 11:57am
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Just realized in the picture when broke down... isnt that a 260z parked, and assisting you? ------------- 71 Javelin SST body 390 69 crank, 70 block & heads NASCAR SB2 rods & pistons 78 Jeep TH400 w/ 2.76 Low 50/50 Ford-AMC Suspension 79 F150 rear & 8.8 axles Ford Racing 3.25 gears & 9" /w Detroit locker |
Posted By: GreggR
Date Posted: Jul/23/2016 at 5:11pm
And where else would a ball joint fail, but in Mongolia...? ------------- No matter where you go, there you are... Buckaroo Banzai.'75 Hornet Hatchback |
Posted By: pacerman
Date Posted: Jul/23/2016 at 7:31pm
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I tracked those guys online for about the first six days until the blog posts took so long to load on my computer. I still have DSL, not a real high-speed line. Very interesting though and the weak point for the AMX sure proved to be the front suspension. Joe ------------- Happiness is making something out of nothing. |
Posted By: P2P AMX
Date Posted: Oct/27/2016 at 5:25am
A more recent photo ------------- Jim Dare to be diffident |
Posted By: amxess
Date Posted: Nov/01/2016 at 4:02pm
| Awesome! |
Posted By: P2P AMX
Date Posted: Nov/17/2016 at 3:48am
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See new You Tube footage: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DzoAixUiMrA Unedited drone shoot ------------- Jim Dare to be diffident |
Posted By: P2P AMX
Date Posted: Jan/16/2017 at 12:00pm
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Left over bits are now on ebay in the UK and I've posted a note in for sale forum here ------------- Jim Dare to be diffident |
Posted By: P2P AMX
Date Posted: Jul/22/2018 at 5:02am
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Thanks to all in AMC world for the help in getting my AMX ready for Goodwood Festival of Speed 2018 Couple of good You Tube videos here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7ZoytPy6TA" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7ZoytPy6TA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UAKyRzAa46Q And a good write up in Hooniverse; http://hooniverse.com/2018/07/15/a-68-amc-amx-rally-car/" rel="nofollow - http://hooniverse.com/2018/07/15/a-68-amc-amx-rally-car/ The p2pamx.com website is getting loads of hits too It was a great weekend and we wouldn't have made it without the help of the greatest number of enthusiasts on the AMC forum Heartfelt thanks, Jim Valentine ------------- Jim Dare to be diffident |
Posted By: 73Gremlin401
Date Posted: Jul/22/2018 at 2:31pm
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Really nice story in Hooniverse, and the video at Goodwood is fantastic. Glad you were able to get there, the car looks quite comfortable filling up the stage road! ------------- 73 Gremlin 401/5-spd. 77 Matador Wagon 360/727. 81 Jeep J10 LWB 360/4-spd 83 Concord DL 4-dr 258/auto  |
Posted By: Annandhan
Date Posted: Oct/03/2022 at 4:38am
| I am really interested in the javelin . Can you tell me whats the price . Email me at raypaliam@gmail.com. Thank you |
Posted By: P2P AMX
Date Posted: Oct/18/2022 at 3:39pm
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Haven't been on here for a while, which is odd given the last couple of years, but was working flat out during Covid. Some normality returning, after a big tidy up and respray underneath we're just doing a round of upgrades on Geen Remmen after a little slumbering with Royal Kustoms in the UK. Car will be getting a more effective front end suspension and some changes to the clutch and cooling. Ended up angle grinding off Mongolian mud from the exhausts... Had a good response from an entry on the Firle Beacon hill climb earlier this year. Hope you're all well, Jim ------------- Jim Dare to be diffident |
Posted By: BrotherBamc
Date Posted: Oct/18/2022 at 6:00pm
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Having to grind off mud..?!?!! That must be some kind of concrete mud..!! Must be like a clay mud.? I've never heard of such a thing before.. LOL Thanks for the update..!! ------------- 77 CJ5 360 73 Gremlin 401 4 speed 2006 Dodge Magnum R/T AWD http://www.lxforums.com/board/garage.php?do=user_garage_view&id=19745" rel="nofollow - My Garage |
Posted By: jebidia24
Date Posted: Oct/21/2022 at 8:09am
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P2P AMX, I also haven't been on the forum in awhile, but I definitely dig the AMX. I believe your build may have inspired Tim O'Neil to build a ARA stage AMX here in the US. I am currently building a stage rally car out of a 79 Spirit (it's slow going). I know it's late to respond but the first AMC in the Sahara was a early Eagle SX4 which ran in the Dakar rally (DNF). It ran in 1981 and was piloted by Jean-Pierre Kurrer and Jean-Marie Chanteux. It and the O'Neil AMX are picture below. I look forward to future updates on the AMX and would like to see it in an American rally if you ever decide to make the trek.   ------------- 1981 Eagle SX-4 258 1979 Spirit Kammback 122 |
Posted By: P2P AMX
Date Posted: Aug/09/2023 at 4:23pm
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Hoping to catch up with Tim's car in October. Geen Remmen is prepping again, having another go at the front suspension, heat factors, some driveline stuff and maybe we'll find where the water gets in even when it doesn't rain... Jim  ------------- Jim Dare to be diffident |
Posted By: P2P AMX
Date Posted: Nov/22/2023 at 7:34am
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Update from visiting the other AMX rally car at Tim O'Neil's , what a facility, what a host, so an image of me and the car that turned up on line while researching P2P adventures of others. New front end suspension coming along.    ------------- Jim Dare to be diffident |
Posted By: P2P AMX
Date Posted: Nov/30/2023 at 4:21am
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Short from Team O'Neil on You Tube featuring the two AMC AMX Rally cars I know of in the world Can almost taste the Mongolian dust.... ------------- Jim Dare to be diffident |
Posted By: P2P AMX
Date Posted: Feb/07/2024 at 7:00am
Revised radiator cooling I think these bad boy brushless fans would power the car if the motor gives up ------------- Jim Dare to be diffident |