Good point, but it depends on what the end goal is. For instance, some have been upgrading the dash with more modern instrumentation, so all the original items there wouldn't matter. Myself, I'm not hung up on originality, I'm more for a nice car that's been personalized by me. But then I build my cars to pass on to my kids, not to sell.

 

Dave Z

 

Good luck!

Mr. Ed

 

T S

If he wants to sell, and you show you are serious, he'll come down. If not, see the first paragraph here.

T S

Thanks Norm, your Spirit is no slouch either.

As far as this car is concerned, if you don't buy it who will? It may in fact end up going for scrap value. Don't be too eager to buy this car. At 15 years old, there's lots of opportunities comming up for you. Take your time and be picky. Offer that guy $500 and wait. I'll bet he doesn't get a better offer.

 

Dave Z

 

Oh crap, he's 15 ?!?!?! That car is as good as on the trailer @ $5,000.

 

Kid listen, they're gonna see you commng. Act like you don't care. Get all excited and you're screwwed. Just ask Scott about my Chevy II, ....TRUST ME !!!!

 

Go, look at it, drive it and whatever price they say above $1,000 decline, thank them for their time and walk away. If you don't you will get hosed !

 

So, 2K and you still have to do all that work on thier house? ...I don't think so. You need to get paid for the work ~AND~ get the car.

 

 

Then no soup for him! It's that simple.

 

2K got my a running driving rust free Califirnia 4 speeds car. Grannted, one in a lifetime deal but still..2K bought it.

 

Sounds like the same BS the guy that sold me the Chevy II said.

 

Don't walk kid, run!

 

 

 

 

SST means squat. It's not like SS to a Chevelle.

 

Not true, in this case it means Sits Still Terminally.

Chris

Lol i know the time im expecting a 4 year wait to drive it or more till then i have a harley yes i have a freggin harley at 15 waiting for me to be 16 lol

  I'm rather excited to see a young gun interested in an AMC. Personally I'm not saying don't buy it, I'm saying don't get hosed. Everything has a value. Patience is a vurtue, use it to your advantage.

 

Dave Z

 

Words of wisdom right there, now is the time to work on you...not that car. 

Ya got me. Wrong Marley.

 

Dave Z

 

I checked the car out closely and found the rear frame rails were shot. I brought another nieghbor over who was a welder to check it out for me. He told me it would cost too much to fix and a better car would be cheaper. I turned my back on this car and it was only $500. I only had intentions of fixing it. Parting it I could have doubled my money easy, but my Dad wasn't having that at the time.

 

At $2000 I don't see you recouping your money parting it down, let alone doubling it.

    Following this thread is like watching an approaching train wreck. I guess we should just all get out of the way, and let it happen. Boy, there has been a lot of very helpful advice given by everybody. You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink.

 

Funny you should say that because I've been thinking the same thing. I really do like my car but I can't even find decent brakes (please let's not go into that). I've been contemplating the same thing...but I really like my car.

 

Kid, here's the plan, save your cake and wally it up for the next three years. be looking all the time so you know what a good one looks like. When the time is right and you have funds to match, pull the trigger on a good one......then roll up to prom in it like a hero.

 

If not, you won't even be able to get a date with a car with no wheels on it (ask me how I know )

 

That being said, I think he needs to realize that most of us on the forum have made the mistake that he is about to make. Speaking for myself, it has happened more than once and I wish I would have listened to people who tried to talk some sense into me.

 

Everybody here on this board was 15 once (some still act like they are 15 ) and we all made mistakes that we would like to see others not make. Spending too much for your first car is one of those. Pass on the '72 and watch e-bay, craigslist and other local car sites. Heck, even putting "1972 AMC for sale" in the google search engine will turn up cars. Refine it if you like but do not pays 2 grand for this car.

 

Good luck!

Mr. Ed

 

Be strong, hang in there. You can get through this.

T S

 

I know you guys are just trying to save him some of the same headaches you had when starting on your first car, but I have to support youthful enthusiasm.  Life beats us down soon enough - and sometimes, you just have to go with what moves you.  He might do well with this - he might crash and burn - but nastier cars have been brought back to life - and maybe, down the line, this one will become a parts car.

 

Good luck, kiddo.

 

I hope you get this beast running.

This is your brain on honda.

This is your brain on AMC.

 All I have to say about that.

 

Props to Shelby willing to hook this kid up with ~HIS~ personal stash!

 

Frame has rust through?  It's a parts car, and $2k is about $1,500 too much to pay for it.

 

 

Hmmmmm, I might just have to ge that from you..

 

Hey kid, here ya go:  http://chicago.craigslist.org/nch/bar/3140481698.html" rel="nofollow - http://chicago.craigslist.org/nch/bar/3140481698.html

 

 

Braaaaaah, BRAAAAAAAH, you're not understandin' !!!!

 

 

It's got pop up piskons  ~AND~ a rolla kam !!!!!

 

 

 

 

I'm juast wondering, if he doesn't buy this car does he have to get as new screen name?

 

I bet he's long gone by now. if he'd have bought it we would have heard something. If he was still interested in one , same thing.

 

Maybe he found a cheap Honda.

 

Yea sorry pretty much 15 and mindset. is 1500 fair? How should i do these pans?

engine runs fine but needs to clean out and new fluids. And since the post and the year went by he found the title and its clear

 

If you have to ask this question then you should not be buying this car.  You can buy a rust free car for less than it will cost you to have someone else fix this one.   Take your worst case cost estimate and double of triple it.  Rust is pervasive and what you think it is going to need and cost is only a fraction of what it will actually need and cost. 

 

Those of us who are giving you advice have been through this ourselves and do this work ourselves.  If ou chose not to listen to what we are all trying to tell you then we wish you well with your pursuit with this car but there is nothing more we can offer you for advice than what has already been provided by many who are giving you the same message.

Here's what i'll do... I'll bring the car to my buddy's house which he has been through this before he will teach me how to weld and clamp it all together. after i become good enough, i'll weld some pans in flush the brakes and drive it. After that i'll drive it for a few years and take it done for paint and further replacement. For now as bad as this sounds i want it driving, not saying piece it together dungty and fast but take my time and finish my good start. I'll worry about restore later when i get there i also got painters that will teach me and much more for free to nothing in cost. I believe i could get the car to my idea in about 5 years at max hopefully less. That would be just to driving order, i've grown up restoring things from old bike to vintage dirtbikes to bigger vintage street bikes to repairing my ford pickup. I'm very far from know how level but i will get there in time with my motivation. Right now i got a restored 73 Yamaha 175 in my garage along with a 1974 Suzuki GT750 water buffalo, all restored by me. Maybe the javelin will fit in restored too eventually till then i'll work my best for the car. 

You are young, full of energy and can learn from the project, both good and bad lessons. Don't expect the 304 to run in the 12s on the strip, it'll run good and sound nice, but you won't shread tires without effort. 

Good luck and welcome to AMC muscle!

Sadly i tried $1000 and $1250

Second, we can assume he didn't actually need the money for a crisis, since he's still sticking to the price a year later.  So you can call BS on that one.

I'm of the mindset that if I know I'm going to enjoy something, I'll pay the price that keeps me happy.  That said, here's a word of caution:  My brother bought a 74 humpster in similar condition.  Ran, drove, but had rusty floorboards and frame.  We live in Missouri, which is in the "Rust Belt" and it had sat under a tree for more than a decade.  When he got it home, we went through the process of looking it over more closely.  We removed the front passenger fender because of cancer on the lower quarter only to find the troughs that hold up the fender looked like swiss cheese.  

We also found out it had pretty bad rust issues under the vinyl top.  That's what they're talking about when they say the rust you see is only half the rust you have.  So just be careful.

That said, if you think you'll enjoy the car at $1,500 I say go for it.  Please stick around the forums.  I know some have been treating you like a kid, but they really can give you solid advice once you have the car.  They're just trying to keep you from making a mistake they made in the past.  They're a good bunch of people and will help you immensely once you have a car.

One last thing you might try:  The day you decide to pull the trigger, bring an envelope with $1,000 in cash.  Tell him that's what you're willing to pay.  Period.  Tell him you've got the money, got the trailer and you're ready to take it to a good home where it will be finally back on the road.  If he seems like he's thinking about it, keep pushing.  Keep telling him you have cash money and then it's out of his way for good.  Worst case scenario he says no and you give him the other $500 and take it home.

Good Luck!

Ray

No receipts the car was sitting 12 years he couldn't even find the title till 2 months ago...the cragars are nice tires suck. And drum brakes wiring harness no problems other then being old.

Ray

 

The guy that used to own my shop had lots and lots of bare spots on his head from weld burns because he just used googles and weld spatter would burn his scalp from when he was welding in tight spots like what you are going to have to do thus the recommendation for using a helmet.