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Topic: Fresh Control Freak Pictures
Posted By: Coloradoamx
Subject: Fresh Control Freak Pictures
Date Posted: Nov/26/2011 at 7:56pm
I just took some new pictures this weekend of the Control freak IFS.  The brakes are Aerospace Components.



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Posted By: amcrules00
Date Posted: Nov/26/2011 at 8:11pm
The componets look sweet, the in your face advertising? Not so much.


Posted By: 72GremlinKid
Date Posted: Nov/26/2011 at 8:30pm
Wow looks amazing and so shiny! I love my control freak setup on my gremlin.

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Posted By: pnypwr
Date Posted: Nov/26/2011 at 8:37pm
sigh I wish I Wasnt poor...id love to have that...maybe I can sell some blood.

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Posted By: 70amcpwr
Date Posted: Nov/26/2011 at 9:31pm
What a freekin piece of work, nice jobThumbs Up. I can only hope the wiper arms have been adjusted if it's the car (Mark Donahue?) that I think it is.

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Posted By: Coloradoamx
Date Posted: Nov/26/2011 at 9:43pm
It's the Silver Bullet.


Posted By: sasyamx
Date Posted: Nov/26/2011 at 10:23pm
Nice.



Posted By: amxdreamer
Date Posted: Nov/26/2011 at 10:42pm
The setup looks great!

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Tony
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Posted By: DocCreer
Date Posted: Nov/26/2011 at 11:33pm
Awesome setup!My american needs one!

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Posted By: 390spirit
Date Posted: Nov/27/2011 at 7:13am
Wayne, which Aerospace brake kit is that?

very nice work that you and Aaron do out there!

whats the next project on the roster?

Thanks
Dracula


Posted By: 390spirit
Date Posted: Nov/27/2011 at 7:18am
Originally posted by 72GremlinKid 72GremlinKid wrote:

Wow looks amazing and so shiny! I love my control freak setup on my gremlin.


yes 72GremlinKid, the setup is sweet isn't it?

i got the upper and lower control arms with the QA1's up front (the 1st design) and the 4 link out back and sub frame connectors, it made a world of difference in handling, corners like its on rails and there's no swaybars on it!   

Dracula


Posted By: GJSZ51
Date Posted: Nov/27/2011 at 7:53am
Very nice! I did not realize they did the crossmember, as well

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Posted By: 390spirit
Date Posted: Nov/27/2011 at 8:03am
Originally posted by GJSZ51 GJSZ51 wrote:



Very nice! I did not realize they did the crossmember, as well


they do 2 different setup's for the front, just the upper and lower CA's that go right in the stock locations or the design that Wayne has shown here.

Dracula


Posted By: 70amcpwr
Date Posted: Nov/27/2011 at 10:21am
Originally posted by Coloradoamx Coloradoamx wrote:

It's the Silver Bullet.  I don't know how you keep them all so nice and still drive them! 


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Posted By: Coloradoamx
Date Posted: Nov/27/2011 at 10:24am
Originally posted by 390spirit 390spirit wrote:

Wayne, which Aerospace brake kit is that?

very nice work that you and Aaron do out there!

whats the next project on the roster?

Thanks
Dracula
It's the Pro-Street brakes from Aerospace Components. 
 
http://shop.aerospacecomponents.com/pro-streetbrakekits.aspx - http://shop.aerospacecomponents.com/pro-streetbrakekits.aspx


Posted By: dkrtgood
Date Posted: Nov/27/2011 at 11:34am
One thing I see...front lower Control arm bolt not going all the way through the nylock or is it just the picture? 

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Posted By: ramblerman390
Date Posted: Nov/27/2011 at 10:25pm
WOW!!!!

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Posted By: Scrapdaddy Sr.
Date Posted: Nov/28/2011 at 7:01am
Control Freaks also has the IFS set up for those running 4.0 or 258 6cyl motors as well. Has a kit to mod the stock oil pan to work with the CF crossmember.
Not many people would  not want to stay with the 6 cyl with this suspension but it's nice to know they have the kit available for those of us who do.
Oh, and the Hornet is just amazing with the Control Freaks Suspension! cant say enough great things about it.


Posted By: purple72Gremlin
Date Posted: Nov/28/2011 at 7:44am
Originally posted by Coloradoamx Coloradoamx wrote:

I just took some new pictures this weekend of the Control freak IFS.  The brakes are Aerospace Components.
Even the car is just as nice.  beautiful!


Posted By: BDCVG
Date Posted: Nov/28/2011 at 10:51am
Hmmmmm, on My setup the anti-roll bar is on top of the lower arm. One of Us has mounted it upside down and I'm not sure it isn't Me.

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1970 AMX 390 5 spd full Control Freaks front and rear suspension
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Posted By: Coloradoamx
Date Posted: Nov/28/2011 at 1:40pm

I don't know that it makes too much difference functionally.  It didn't come with instructions that specified one way or another.  Do you have any interference problems?...if not I'd just install it the way you like it.  I may look at the way mine is installed too to see if it fits on the top.

Wayne


Posted By: BDCVG
Date Posted: Nov/28/2011 at 4:04pm
No clearance issues at all so it may not matter.

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1970 AMX 390 5 spd full Control Freaks front and rear suspension
2014 E63 AMG-S wagon
1965 Austin-Healey 3000 MK III              


Posted By: fast401
Date Posted: Nov/28/2011 at 4:17pm
IMHO I think a bolt is stronger when it is compressed rather than streched.  Maybe more downforce on the top?????

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Posted By: Coloradoamx
Date Posted: Nov/28/2011 at 5:31pm
I just sent a PM to Al to ask him the correct mounting location, so he may weigh in.
 
Wayne


Posted By: alber1x
Date Posted: Nov/28/2011 at 5:36pm
Wayne & Friends:
 
Everyone is right in terms of the sway bar fitment.  We did, however, design it to sit above the lower control arm, not below.  It does function marginally better,but, more important, nothing is hanging down.
 
Hope this helps.
 
Best regards,
 
Al


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Al Kamhi
Control Freak Suspensions
Winter Springs, FL

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Posted By: Nashty401
Date Posted: Nov/28/2011 at 5:56pm
I can see the point about bolt stress but if the mounting needs to be flipped around to above the control arm, the bar might need to be flipped and a longer bolt utilized with a spacer to make sure and clear the rack 'n pinion tie rod. Take a close look.


Posted By: Scrapdaddy Sr.
Date Posted: Nov/28/2011 at 5:57pm
Wayne, whats the distance between the end link mounts on your front roll bar?


Posted By: 73hornut
Date Posted: Nov/28/2011 at 6:31pm
Originally posted by Nashty401 Nashty401 wrote:

I can see the point about bolt stress but if the mounting needs to be flipped around to above the control arm, the bar might need to be flipped and a longer bolt utilized with a spacer to make sure and clear the rack 'n pinion tie rod. Take a close look.

Looks from here, that it should fit fine by flipping the bar and mounting above the lower control arm, unless it will hit it's own bracket.


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Posted By: Coloradoamx
Date Posted: Nov/28/2011 at 7:11pm
Wendell,
 
I think you may have asked me that before and I forgot to get back to you.  I just took a measurement, and it looks like 43".  Hope that helps.
 
As far as the mounting location of the bar, I kinda like the location it's in, it looks non-conventional.  Although I may flip it over to see if I can notice any diference in handling.
 
 


Posted By: Scrapdaddy Sr.
Date Posted: Nov/28/2011 at 7:32pm
Yes indeed that does help!! Thank you very much!!

I can make it work on the Hornet. Now to locate a rear sway bar that can be made to work. I remember that Al's BA Dart He had at his shop had a rear kit that just might do the trick.Cool


Posted By: FuzzFace2
Date Posted: Nov/29/2011 at 9:16am
As for the bolts for end links IIRC when 1 side is "pushing" the other side is "pulling" no?
So it would not make a difference if on top or below the are on the bolts......now for handeling???
Dave ----


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Posted By: alber1x
Date Posted: Nov/29/2011 at 9:27am
Originally posted by alber1x alber1x wrote:

Wayne & Friends:
 
Everyone is right in terms of the sway bar fitment.  We did, however, design it to sit above the lower control arm, not below.  It does function marginally better,but, more important, nothing is hanging down.
 
Hope this helps.
 
Best regards,
 
Al
Just FYI to everyone:
 
There is only marginal stress on the bolts because the sway bar has very limited movement, either in compression or sway.  The poly end links and bushings absord most of the movement and the bolts are constantly in a push-pull configuration.  The bolts, for this reason, do move around and are protected by the end links.  They never fight each other or stress.  Most manufacturers include Grade 5 bolts because there is little or no stress.  We just provide Grade 8 bolts because that's all we use.
 
As for handling, it will be slightly better as the bar was designed...on top of the lower control arm.  It will never hit the steering arms or anything else, because it rides up and down with them.  The spacing to other parts is a constant.  The increased benefit will not really be noticed on the street, never noticed on the drag strip, and very noticeable in high speed road racing and hard acceleration autocross.
 
I appreciate everyone chiming in but this is not a complex piece of equipment.  Hope this helps.
 
Al


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Al Kamhi
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Winter Springs, FL

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Posted By: 70 71 72 AMXs
Date Posted: Nov/29/2011 at 5:59pm
I can't quite tell from the photos, is the strut rod gone? if so is the caster set from the upper ball joint then?

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Posted By: alber1x
Date Posted: Nov/29/2011 at 6:04pm
Originally posted by 70 71 72 AMXs 70 71 72 AMXs wrote:

I can't quite tell from the photos, is the strut rod gone? if so is the caster set from the upper ball joint then?
 
Yes, the strut rods are gone because upper and lower control arms are now A-arms and extremely stable.
 
The upper control arms are adjustable with bushed rod ends, making caster and camber fully adjustable.  Six degrees of negative roll is already built into the geometry of the system, making alignment easy to achieve and maintain.
 
Al


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Al Kamhi
Control Freak Suspensions
Winter Springs, FL

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407-696-2772
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