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Topic: Removing Pilot Bushing
Posted By: Aljav
Subject: Removing Pilot Bushing
Date Posted: Jul/01/2010 at 11:31am
Any good ideas on removing a pilot bushing?
 
Allan


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Posted By: tyrodtom
Date Posted: Jul/01/2010 at 11:40am
   Pack the cavity with the thickest grease youcan find, or bread, put a old input shaft, or anything that fits snug in the pilot bearing, hit it with a hammer, the hydraulic pressure will push the pilot bearing out.

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Posted By: billd
Date Posted: Jul/01/2010 at 11:40am
pack the hole and cavity with grease.
Find a rod or shaft that just fits smoothly into the bushing.
Smack the rod/shaft with a hammer. You'll drive the bushing back out at you.
Otherwise, I do have a slidehammer bushing remover, but I like the grease and rod method.
I often end up using my clutch alignment tool for this..............


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Posted By: ramblinfsj
Date Posted: Jul/01/2010 at 11:42am
Fill the hole with grease. As much as you can stuff in there. Then find a bolt or a punch or something that will just go inside of the bushing and that you can hit with a hammer. Once you hit the bolt or punch, it compresses the grease inside the hole, and pushes the pilot bushing out. It probably won't work the first, second, or third time because there's not enough grease in the hole. Just wack it, fill with grease, wack it, fill with grease, and repeat until the bushing pops out.

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Posted By: billd
Date Posted: Jul/01/2010 at 11:43am
I am left to wonder if anyone here has ever used grease to remove a pilot bushing. Seems it might just work........

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Posted By: Aljav
Date Posted: Jul/01/2010 at 11:44am
HMMMMM sounds like an agrement here... which seems rare at times on the forum...LOL
 
My only problem is I don't have something off hand that I know of to fit, but I guess I will have to look for something in our pile of goodies to fit
 
Thanks, Allan


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Posted By: whizkidder
Date Posted: Jul/01/2010 at 11:45am
Grease is too messy --- I use a Dremel.  lol

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Posted By: billd
Date Posted: Jul/01/2010 at 11:47am
Smack


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Posted By: Aljav
Date Posted: Jul/01/2010 at 11:47am
I have a air powered chisel but I hate to pound on the back of a crank in a 290 with a 100,000 miles and more...LOL
 
Allan


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Posted By: tsanchez
Date Posted: Jul/01/2010 at 12:26pm
Use a broom stick if you have nothing else, knife it to size or use a grinder to size it.

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Posted By: SKeown
Date Posted: Jul/01/2010 at 1:08pm
 
 Go to O'reilys and borrow their pilot bearing removing slide hammer. That's the ideal approach.
 
 SKeown


Posted By: Peter Marano
Date Posted: Jul/01/2010 at 1:09pm
I have used newspaper soaked with water, less mess.


Posted By: Aljav
Date Posted: Jul/01/2010 at 2:05pm
Wow this is the most reponses I have ever gotten for a question...LOL
 
Thanks they are all good and should work great..
 
Now I just have to get the GM bushing to fit in the crank.. and dial in the lakewood bellhousing.... get the shifter in the correct location.... have a drive shaft made.. figure out the cross member to hold up a GM T-10....
 
Thanks...
 
Allan


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Posted By: jeremy0711
Date Posted: Jul/01/2010 at 2:19pm
my buddy called me up cause he ripped up the tool to remove the bearing and I told him of the good ol grease method and he thought i was nuts but he got it out in 5 minutes compared to the last two hours with the tool.


Posted By: Aljav
Date Posted: Jul/01/2010 at 2:55pm
Thats what I was thinking that after 42 years in there it might be a bit tough to remove!!

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Posted By: tyrodtom
Date Posted: Jul/01/2010 at 5:30pm
  Really guys, bread works better than grease.

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Posted By: SKeown
Date Posted: Jul/01/2010 at 6:00pm
 
 Gelled K-Y jelly is an old stand by too.
 
 SKeown


Posted By: Rebel 327
Date Posted: Jul/01/2010 at 6:03pm
QUOTE:"Really guys, bread works better than grease"
Wheat, white or Rye?Wink  Never heard that but makes sense--may give it a try next time. THX.

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Posted By: 401cj7jeep
Date Posted: Jul/01/2010 at 8:07pm
Fill the hole with grease till its spooging out. Then find a bolt or rod or something that fits inside of the bushing. Smake it with a  hammer. The grease compressed and forces the bushing out. It probably will take a few swings and packing more grease in the hole each time....
 
works for me every time... 


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Posted By: FuzzFace2
Date Posted: Jul/01/2010 at 8:30pm

I used wheel bearing grease and a wooden dowel. It took me longer to grind it down on the bench grinder to fit the bushing than it took to get it out.

 

If I was to use bread I would use 12 grain……its healthier for you LOL

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Posted By: tyrodtom
Date Posted: Jul/01/2010 at 8:38pm
   I thought it was crazy too till I tried it, less of a mess with bread, no grease on the flywheel.
   Both grease or bread works better than the slide hammer.

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Posted By: SKeown
Date Posted: Jul/01/2010 at 9:29pm
 
 I just did one last week on a crank out of the engine, it took three wacks with a slide hammer. How can it be easier than that?
 
 SKeown


Posted By: tyrodtom
Date Posted: Jul/01/2010 at 9:43pm
   Sometimes when you're taking out a badly messed up pilot bearing, they don't come out that easy.  Believe me, as a bodyman , i've got several slide hammers, even one just to remove bearing races, etc., when the engine is still in the car, I prefer the gease or bread trick.

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Posted By: SKeown
Date Posted: Jul/01/2010 at 10:00pm
 
 I understand the principal behind a slide hammer, using one in conjunction with the pilot bearing removing fixture that's availiable for loan through O'Reily's at no cost wont fail. Grease, bread or any other way that works is fine with me, but the tool made for that purpose definately works in a no muss or fuss way, that's all.
 
 SKeown


Posted By: billd
Date Posted: Jul/01/2010 at 10:13pm
but with bread or grease, you don't have to make a trip into town.................. it's all right there next to you. It would take a 45 minute round-trip for me to go borrow or rent a tool for that.

(I also own the slidehammer, but still prefer the grease method - bread it for eating ;-)  )


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Posted By: jeremy0711
Date Posted: Jul/01/2010 at 11:39pm
If I had to buy one then I would want the slide hammer style. A little more beef to the tool. I will have to try the bread method next time...So do you have to soak the bread before you stuff it in the hole? I bet that is cheaper than all the grease that you ruin on top of the rags and soap to recover from the grease method.


Posted By: billd
Date Posted: Jul/01/2010 at 11:49pm
IMO the grease isn't that messy. But then, I've removed totally stuck and rusted pistons using grease and a grease gun, too - imagine a 5" bore and 7" stroke how much grease that would take.
I always have some contaminated grease on hand in an old can for such projects.
Last pilot bushing I did (a 258) the clean up was a couple paper towels, honestly. Sounds messier than it is. And it's fast.
Slidehammer is good, no real mess, but I don't use that on pilot bushings I intend to save or use later. But it you have one, it's mess-free, and fast.
 
I've got similar tools for removing transmission tail-housing bushings, etc. as well. Slide it in, tighten a bolt or move a sleeve, screw in the slider hammer, pull bushing.


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Posted By: tomslik
Date Posted: Jul/02/2010 at 4:24am
6 cyl 85 cj w/a t5 trans will get ya a pilot bushing you don't have to modify...
 
btw, find a bolt that will thread into the bushing and crank away IF you don't want to buy a real live removal tool...i've got an assenmacher (ast) blind hole bushing removal tool at work.
way better that the slide hammer stuff or the puller that's designed for the operation...
 


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Posted By: tyrodtom
Date Posted: Jul/02/2010 at 8:29am
  Just stuff the bread in, pretend it's grease.   Except you can eat what's left.

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Posted By: Aljav
Date Posted: Jul/02/2010 at 10:28am
and what left over you can make toast

I don't like to Brag I don't boast..but I like Toast

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Allan


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Posted By: amx39068
Date Posted: Jul/02/2010 at 10:30am
I just use the removal tool. It works like a charm

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