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Carter WCD 2bbl carb.

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Topic: Carter WCD 2bbl carb.
Posted By: Mr_AMC
Subject: Carter WCD 2bbl carb.
Date Posted: Sep/10/2019 at 1:54pm
Does anyone know the correct name for the piece that clamps on top of the carburetor, that allows you to attach the air cleaner??  I do not have it, and without the correct name, I am having trouble finding one..
I have the Carter WCD carb, and the intake plate for the 195.6, and an air cleaner..   But need the piece for the top of the carb before I can use it..

Thanks
Jeff



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Posted By: rocklandrambler
Date Posted: Sep/10/2019 at 4:35pm
I believe it's called the air cleaner bail.  Not easy to find.


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1974 Hornet X (new)
1975 Gremlin X (new)
1964 Classic 660 Cross Country
1965 American 440-H


Posted By: tomj
Date Posted: Sep/10/2019 at 9:15pm
what year requires the bail? i had a WCD on a 1963 American, the air cleaner assembly (paper filter type) sat on top of the carb. you might more easily find one of those.


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1961 Roadster American, 195.6 OHV, T5
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Posted By: 6768rogues
Date Posted: Sep/10/2019 at 11:03pm
My 67 has a bail, it is a piece of wire that wraps around a stud. That stud goes through the air cleaner lid and holds the air cleaner on.

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Posted By: Mr_AMC
Date Posted: Sep/11/2019 at 7:46am
Not sure of the exact year.
I have all of the parts to but this 2barrel Carter carb on my 65 195.6 engine, EXCEPT for the Bail..
I will have to do a search using that term, instead of "adaptor" and see what I can find..
Thanks


Posted By: Mr_AMC
Date Posted: Sep/11/2019 at 7:49am
the top pf my Carb has NOTHING to attach an air cleaner to.. it is the paper element type, but there is NO bolt to put a wing nut on, and nothing to hold a bolt in place, just the open 2 5/8 carburetor opening


Posted By: Mr_AMC
Date Posted: Sep/11/2019 at 7:59am


Posted By: pacerman
Date Posted: Sep/11/2019 at 2:11pm
Larry, I will check through my parts but one place you could also check is antique (1950s) Buick sites.  Buicks used that carb in on version or another on the straight eights for many many years.  Joe

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Posted By: 6768rogues
Date Posted: Sep/11/2019 at 2:21pm
Had pic, can’t get it to post.


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Posted By: rocklandrambler
Date Posted: Sep/12/2019 at 4:33am
I just found an air cleaner bail as described by 6768rogues.  To mount it will require drilling two holes in the air horn.  Do you have the correct air cleaner base for the WCD?  It would have an indentation to fit over the metering rods cover.  Also when mounting the plate on the engine remember the inner row of bolts are actually head bolts and will require proper torquing.  Please PM me your mailing address and I'll send you the bail for free.

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Past AMC's
1974 Hornet X (new)
1975 Gremlin X (new)
1964 Classic 660 Cross Country
1965 American 440-H


Posted By: Mr_AMC
Date Posted: Sep/12/2019 at 10:55am
I THINK I have the correct air cleaner base..
It is at home, so I will have to look.. Thanks for the information and the offer..
I will let you know assuming that I have the correct air cleaner base..
Thank you...


Posted By: Mr_AMC
Date Posted: Sep/12/2019 at 12:25pm
I am going to put this on  my 65 American 440H, IF I do have the correct air cleaner....
I have not yet re-torqued the head bolts in the past 5000 miles.., so it will be a good time to do both


Posted By: Heavy 488
Date Posted: Sep/12/2019 at 3:49pm
Looks llike the style that used a sort of V band clamp around the neck of the carb and filter base. Long screw and a wingnut out the side.
https://www.just8ns.com/311511-Years-1958-62-Air-Cleaner-Oil-Cup-Clamp?_vsrefdom=adwords&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIuPeUz5TM5AIVTb7ACh1_IAeJEAQYBiABEgJeoPD_BwE" rel="nofollow - https://www.just8ns.com/311511-Years-1958-62-Air-Cleaner-Oil-Cup-Clamp?_vsrefdom=adwords&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIuPeUz5TM5AIVTb7ACh1_IAeJEAQYBiABEgJeoPD_BwE


Posted By: Mr_AMC
Date Posted: Sep/13/2019 at 10:10am
Cool..
Thanks for the info..


Posted By: Heavy 488
Date Posted: Sep/13/2019 at 10:12am
Just to avoid misinterpretation, I'm not saying its the correct part shown but I believe it's the correct style for that carb neck


Posted By: Mr_AMC
Date Posted: Sep/14/2019 at 2:29pm
yes..  I understand.. 
Sometimes you have to find WHAT WILL WORK..


Posted By: First_Gear
Date Posted: Sep/16/2019 at 11:55am
http://www.championcarburetor.com/3286-carburetor-air-cleaner-bracket-call-for-fitment-questions-1v-p-10723.html" rel="nofollow - http://www.championcarburetor.com/3286-carburetor-air-cleaner-bracket-call-for-fitment-questions-1v-p-10723.html

sadly this is for a 1v but this is the style clamp you need. I'm sure there is a 2v out there someplace.


Posted By: farna
Date Posted: Sep/17/2019 at 7:32am
Maybe not. Some of the early air cleaners had a clamp on base made onto them instead of a bail. I've seen that most often on old 50s oil bath air cleaners. Don't know what AMC did on early (pre 63) WCDs. Wouldn't hurt to drill the lip of the air horn for a later model bail though. Won't affect carb operation, and it can always be removed it the original type is desired later. 

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