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Mystery I6 Intake

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Forum Name: AMC 6 Cylinder Engine Repair and Modifications
Forum Description: AMC-made I-6 engine mechanical, ignition and fuel from basic repair to high-perf modifications
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Printed Date: Jul/15/2020 at 12:42pm


Topic: Mystery I6 Intake
Posted By: Javelin_GT
Subject: Mystery I6 Intake
Date Posted: May/15/2019 at 3:12pm
Someone posted a Craigslist ad for this and I gambled on it for $40.  Its an oddball for sure.  Looks like it was split in half and welded back together.  The runners are much longer then the Clifford I compared it to.





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Posted By: Javelin_GT
Date Posted: May/15/2019 at 3:51pm


Posted By: Rambler Mexicano
Date Posted: May/15/2019 at 3:57pm
Interesting.

To certain point reminds me of the VAM intakes.





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Mauricio Jordán

Cuando no se es una empresa famosa se deben hacer mejores automóviles.
- Vehículos Automotores Mexicanos S. A. de C. V.


Posted By: tom999q
Date Posted: May/15/2019 at 4:41pm
Maybe it's custom cast. I used to cast things like that in high school metal shop.


Posted By: 232jav3sp
Date Posted: May/15/2019 at 5:41pm
Very interesting. Are the flanges all straightened on a level plane? They look like they have been position on an angle.


Posted By: tyrodtom
Date Posted: May/15/2019 at 5:43pm
I have a Oct. 1969 Rod&Custom with pictures of the optional VAM four barrel intake.

That's it exactly,  complete with no trademark, serial #,  or any marking in any of the 3 pictures they show of it.


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66 American SW, 66 American 2dr, 82 J10, 70 Hornet, Pound, Va.


Posted By: matty 401
Date Posted: May/15/2019 at 6:22pm
would love to have that for my sons wagon 

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72 matador 401 the beast
79 concord 2 door
72 matador 304 grasshopper
68 Rogue 360
93 Cherokee 2wd 4.0 5 speed


Posted By: tomj
Date Posted: May/15/2019 at 10:53pm
Originally posted by 232jav3sp 232jav3sp wrote:

Very interesting. Are the flanges all straightened on a level plane? They look like they have been position on an angle.


good observation! i'm curious too.



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1961 roadster american, 195.6 OHV, T5
1968 american, 199ci, T14
AMC pages: http://www.sr-ix.com/AMC/



Posted By: farna
Date Posted: May/16/2019 at 6:43am
Looks like the VAM 4V intake, as tyrodtom mentioned.


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Frank Swygert


Posted By: Midnight Rambler
Date Posted: May/16/2019 at 8:25am
Was this the "Jim McFarland" intake from Wisconsin?  Still worth the $40 even if not IMO.

I wish I saved the picture when I saw it, the ad was pulled in a day. 


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'66 American 440 Convertible 290/WC M-37/AMC 20 3.15/PS/PB
'04 Jeep Wrangler X Rocky Mountain Edition 4.0 5sp


Posted By: Rambler Mexicano
Date Posted: May/16/2019 at 5:15pm
It's not the aluminum VAM Go Pack intake. The VAM intake is totally round, boomerang-like.

Here are some pictures of it, complete with a press presentation by VAM engineer Armando Lobato, one of the men behind the VAM Go Pack.





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Mauricio Jordán

Cuando no se es una empresa famosa se deben hacer mejores automóviles.
- Vehículos Automotores Mexicanos S. A. de C. V.


Posted By: 304-dude
Date Posted: May/16/2019 at 5:21pm
Those VAM engineers make some cool stuff for the AM I6. Really makes for some interesting engine build for a VAM GT... just wonder what other options for transmissions were VAM only on the performance I6 line. I dont think a T5 would last long on a Rally GT.

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71 Javelin SST body
390 69 crank, 70 block & heads
NASCAR SB2 rods & pistons
78 Jeep TH400 w/ 2.76 Low
50/50 Ford-AMC Suspension
79 F150 rear & 8.8 axles
Ford Racing 3.25 gears & 9" /w Detroit locker


Posted By: tyrodtom
Date Posted: May/16/2019 at 6:24pm
That's not the only 4 barrel intake VAM made.
I'll try to post a picture of the intake pictures of the VAM intake that was in the Oct. 69 Rod&Custom.
It's probably the first ones they installed on the 252 they made in the late 60's.
It looks exactly like the intake the original poster pictured.

The picture you have there maybe a later design.
What's the date on that article ?

I almost bought one of those intakes from Randall American in 1970,  but they didn't want to deal with mail orders and drop shipments.   I was in the Army at the time.
I ended up getting a Offenhauser intake instead.

That was 50 years ago,  but I still have the magazine that I found the information about VAM's performance versions of the AMC 6.


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66 American SW, 66 American 2dr, 82 J10, 70 Hornet, Pound, Va.


Posted By: matty 401
Date Posted: May/16/2019 at 6:28pm
would love to have the intake and headers 

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72 matador 401 the beast
79 concord 2 door
72 matador 304 grasshopper
68 Rogue 360
93 Cherokee 2wd 4.0 5 speed


Posted By: 1982AMCConcord
Date Posted: May/17/2019 at 7:47am
Originally posted by tyrodtom tyrodtom wrote:

I have a Oct. 1969 Rod&Custom with pictures of the optional VAM four barrel intake.

That's it exactly,  complete with no trademark, serial #,  or any marking in any of the 3 pictures they show of it.

In the other thread I pondered if it was a VAM intake. I think it is a VAM intake.. I thought I had seen another one like it on a VAM Facebook page. I am going to email my friend Luis and ask him if he has seen it down in Mexico on any VAM cars before.


Posted By: 1982AMCConcord
Date Posted: May/17/2019 at 9:44am
From my friend in Mexico... Notice the writing on the left side... while they are not exactly indentical... they seem to be very very similar... hope this helps... 


Posted By: AMXRWB
Date Posted: May/17/2019 at 12:48pm
Great topic.


Posted By: partsguy
Date Posted: May/17/2019 at 2:29pm
very interesting,


Posted By: Greyhounds_AMX
Date Posted: May/17/2019 at 4:47pm
Tyrodtom, please post up the entire article. I've been wanting to read thru that again for about 35 years.

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1968 AMX 390 w/T5


Posted By: tyrodtom
Date Posted: May/17/2019 at 6:14pm
I have no way to do it.
I'll see if Rod &Custom has a archive of old articles.

Rod&Custom devoted 2 months to the AMC 6,  both September and October, 69 had AMC 6 content.


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66 American SW, 66 American 2dr, 82 J10, 70 Hornet, Pound, Va.


Posted By: tomj
Date Posted: May/17/2019 at 9:12pm
Originally posted by tyrodtom tyrodtom wrote:

I have no way to do it.


if you have a copy somewhere i'll put it on my website and make it public.



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1961 roadster american, 195.6 OHV, T5
1968 american, 199ci, T14
AMC pages: http://www.sr-ix.com/AMC/



Posted By: tomj
Date Posted: May/17/2019 at 9:15pm
hmm... i go to mexico every year (just Puerto Vallarta, with all the other old gringo folks). my spanish is barely Restaurant Spanish. i suppose i should think about how to fetch some manifolds back to the US. would have to be clean-ish and go home as checked baggage. and get through customs.



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1961 roadster american, 195.6 OHV, T5
1968 american, 199ci, T14
AMC pages: http://www.sr-ix.com/AMC/



Posted By: tyrodtom
Date Posted: May/18/2019 at 1:10pm
I didn't know until today that Rod&Custom went out of print in 2014.
What a shame,  probable my favorite car magazine back in the 70's and 80's.

I've got hundreds of old car magazines,  when I say old I mean back into the 60's and even have a few from the 50's.

But when I put a page on a printer I usually get a picture so dark and fuzzy you can't make out a lot of it. 



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66 American SW, 66 American 2dr, 82 J10, 70 Hornet, Pound, Va.


Posted By: Rambler Mexicano
Date Posted: May/18/2019 at 2:01pm
Tyrodtom,

Tha article I posted is from May 1969.

Armando Lobato was not the only VAM engineeer behind the VAM Go Pack. Pilots and engineers Javier Elenes and Germán Revilla also stand out in its conception among others, it might be that one was behind every different VAM four-barrel intake.

In this regard, there are three VAM Go Pack intake designs so far.

Do you know anyone that could scan the Rod and Custom articles for you?

If you do, he/she can send them to my email and I can post them here for everyone to see.

I would like to see a review of the VAM Go Pack from the American point of view, since the norm at the time in the US was all-V8 only in regards to performance.

Originally posted by 1982AMCConcord 1982AMCConcord wrote:

From my friend in Mexico... Notice the writing on the left side... while they are not exactly indentical... they seem to be very very similar... hope this helps... 


This is a new one for me.

That's the 1963-1973 VAM logo on the lower left corner.

The carburetors used in the VAM Go Pack, at least that I know of, are the Carter AFB and AVS four-barrel models, rated from 650 to 800 CFMs.


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Mauricio Jordán

Cuando no se es una empresa famosa se deben hacer mejores automóviles.
- Vehículos Automotores Mexicanos S. A. de C. V.


Posted By: mitchito
Date Posted: Jun/01/2019 at 7:54am
Good luck finding one of those even in Mexico. I am also there every year and belong to the local AMC Club. There are several cars with 4 barrels, however they are all using a manifold locally made but aftermarket, I forget the brand name

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1982 Rambler Lerma
1981 Rambler Lerma coupe
1978 American (Concord base)
1977 Gremlin
1976 Pacer X


Posted By: farna
Date Posted: Dec/13/2019 at 9:40am
Most of the VAM cars were sold in the Mexico City area and were tu ed for higher altitudes. Not so likely to find them in coastal areas.

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Frank Swygert



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