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    Posted: Aug/08/2013 at 9:11pm
On an early 232 with alternator on the left, how and where does the power steering pump go on?

The pump I have has a couple of slots and a bracket that came with it has a couple of slots. I figure the slots in the pump must mate with the slots in the bracket, but where does the other hole in the bracket go to. There is also a bar coming off the bottom of the pump that must go somewhere. I am assuming they must hang on the right side of the engine somehow. 

And does the car with PS use one belt or two? 

This pump and box set up came off a 65 American and I hope to put it on my 64 Classic.   

Thanks for your help if anyone has ever seen one of these.
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My 67 Rogue has the pump on the lower passenger's side of the engine. Without taking a look, I recall that it has a two bolt bracket that goes on the block and an adjustment bar. I will try to take a look tomorrow. Here is an old pic, the PS pump is below the AC compressor and the AC runs off the PS pump. The bolt at the end of the bracket puts tension on the belt when the bolts in the slots are loosened. I have seen AC cars with that bolt and non-AC cars without it. I think the PS is a dedicated belt, but I will have to check.
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What year car are you working on? There are a number of variations in the bracketry but they all mount the pump on the right side of the engine. The way the belts work is that there is a belt for the water pump and alternator and a belt for the power steering and/or factory A/C (if a car had factory A/c but no power steering, an idler pulley was used). There is also a separate pulley that bolts to the harmonic damper. The picture above shows a much later A/C system. Factory systems mounted the compressor on the left (there is a stud on the intake manifold for one of the mounts) and moved the battery to the right side of the engine bay.
 
Here's a better picture of a factory power steering set up. This one was from a 74 Hornet and put in a 68 American.
 
 
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My '65 Marlin has the power steering pump on the driver's side and the alternator on the passenger's side of its 232 engine.Two belts, one each for the alt and P/S pump.
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The setup shown in my picture is on my 67 Rogue and it was removed from a 66 American with a 232 (a friend has it and put in a 390/4 speed). I got the PS pump double pulley and the York bracket from the 66. The only modification is that I bolted a Sanden adapter to the York mounting plate and used a Sanden compressor.
In 69 (not sure about 68) AMC moved the compressor to the driver's side. I had one of those mounts but it would not work without belt interference, so other things must have also changed and I did not have access to the remainder of the 69 parts.
Anyhow, your question was about PS not AC, so you know where it goes. I like Kermit's setup with the Saginaw pump because I prefer Saginaw over Eaton, but I used what I had easy access to.
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Thanks, after the picture I see where it goes. Looks like one belt will do it all. The one on that blue engine definitely looks stronger.

What I thought was going to be an easy project will have to wait a while because the steering shaft has no rag joint. 


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My planned fix for the steering shaft will be to go with a hack saw to the auto wreckers and get a collapsible D shaft with a rag joint (to fit to the power steering box). I'll couple it with a sleeve to my shaft, utilizing a combination of rosette welds and two safety bolts. Hopefully there's enough room in there to accomplish this.

Opinions and other/better ideas are thankfully appreciated.   
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I believe someone posted this link for steering parts quite some time ago. http://www.borgeson.com

The 64 Classic might get some nice couplers, collapsible shaft and P.S. sometime in its future.
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