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rms827 
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 Topic: Opinions on Coil Springs?Posted: May/10/2018 at 3:45pm |
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I'm trying to decide how concerned to be about my springs and if I should replace them. Here's the deal:
When I FINALLY got the Rambler into the DIY shop and onto the lift, the front suspension hung pretty low. Not surprising given the condition of the bushings. The front springs actually had a curve in them though as they (the suspension rather) hung there; about 15 degrees, just eyeballing it. Didn't look like they were in any danger of popping out or anything, but it still made me a little uneasy as I've never seen springs curve with a car in the air. Suspension IS one of my weak areas, but I've had a ton of cars on the lift over the years when I was turning wrenches. On top of the slinky effect, the springs are 54 years old at this point. |
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2Busy
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Posted: May/10/2018 at 3:53pm |
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I think it is normal for the springs to appear to flex or bend slightly when the suspension is unloaded. I don't think that is a problem.
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LakesideRamblin
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Posted: May/10/2018 at 4:04pm |
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Eaton Detroit Springs for quality replacement if you are leaning in that direction (no pun intended).
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billd
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Posted: May/10/2018 at 5:20pm |
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Eaton doesn't do coils - at least that's what they told me way back. Leaf springs only.
That suspension will hang down - a surprising amount and it's not unusual for the long springs of the early cars to bow out - especially with worn trunions and bushings. That makes it worse. In fact I've seen trunions so bad things fell apart. |
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LakesideRamblin
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Posted: May/10/2018 at 5:22pm |
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They do both. Have them on my car.
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LakesideRamblin
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billd
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Posted: May/10/2018 at 5:46pm |
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Then they have changed in the last few years - when I was doing my 70 the head dude said no to coils. And when I did my 82 Eagle, they also said no coils, leaf only. How long ago did you buy coils from Eaton?
8 years ago, maybe even fewer, they flat out told me they didn't do coils when I contacted them. I may still have their communication........... |
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LakesideRamblin
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Posted: May/10/2018 at 5:51pm |
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No sweat, last year.
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Posted: May/10/2018 at 5:51pm |
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Bill D. They just made me a full set of Coils for My 74 Matador Coupe.
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billd
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Posted: May/10/2018 at 6:34pm |
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Not doubting that - just that when I tried to get springs for my cars - of course this was a few years back, I was told flat out - NO coils. I talked to 'em about my Eagle springs and they said no they can't do coils.
Like I said,, that was a while back - all i'm saying is that they must have CHANGED - because had they done springs when I wanted them for my Eagle - they'd have been my first choice. The springs under the front of my Eagle suck - WAAAY too stiff and they hold the car up too high. I told the company what I wanted, and now years later comparing wire size, coils and all - I can see why the springs I got from "another company" suck. Larger wire, etc. If ED has started to do coils, then one of these days I'll see if they can do Eagle coils yet - i'd love to know when they changed and started coils. I love the PERFECT leaf springs under my 70 from E-D
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rms827
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Posted: May/10/2018 at 7:45pm |
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Not sure when they changed, BUT they do indeed to coils. $259 a pair for front or rear for the Rambler.
Still trying to decide if they're needed though... Backs probably are at least. Push down on the back corner of the car and it's really mushy and bounces 4 or 5 times. I know that shade tree test is mainly for shocks BUT that's alot of bounce and mush. Front is fairly stiff in terms of bounce. It takes some effort to push the corner down and there's only one bounce. |
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